I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

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I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby Malcolm Kavalsky » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:50 am

Not in a family way, rather by teacher-pupil association :

Tarrega taught Emilio Pujol
Emilio Pujol taught Alberto Ponce
Alberto Ponce taught Yoram Zerbib
Yoram Zerbib is my teacher.

So, I am 5th generation Tarrega student !
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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby barngarth » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:17 am

Ha ha ha! Great! This should make a good thread!

I am descended from Segovia then. I think most of us might be...I must be 3rd generation Segoiva.

This may not be truly acurate, but 90%

Segovia taught John Williams, he taught Craig Ogden and Simon Dinnigan

They taught me.

Nah, Tarrega is way more cool though :)
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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby Richard Judge » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:30 am

Simon Dinnigan was discovered by Jose Tomas who also studied with Emilio Pujol who was, as already stated, taught by Tarrega

http://www.westsussexguitar.com/simondinnigan.html

I don't know where my teacher was trained...
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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby smwink » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:39 am

Tarrega -> Pujol -> Robert Paul Sullivan -> me.

In my "other" life I'm a research mathematician/scientist. There is an interesting "Mathematics Genealogy Project" online that charts out student/advisor relationships. I wonder what it would take to do something similar with guitarists, and whether it would be interesting.
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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby Denian Arcoleo » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:39 am

Ida Presti taught Gilbert Biberian,
Gilbert Biberian taught me,
so I guess (by this measure) I'm a musical descendant of Ida Presti :lol:
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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby Blondie » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:04 pm

barngarth wrote:Segovia taught John Williams, he taught Craig Ogden and Simon Dinnigan


I realise the thread's only for fun, but...

Williams was already an accomplished guitarist when he met Segovia, having been taught by his father. He is quite circumspect about Segovia's impact on his playing in the documentary profile that accompanies the Seville concert.

Simon Dinnigan was not taught by Williams, he studied at Chethams School of music (w/ Gordon Crosskey), then the Royal Northern College of Music and Guidhall school of music and drama. He has had a couple of masterclasses with JW, but that's not the same as "was taught by". Craig Ogden studied at
University of Western Australia and was not taught by Williams either.

Incidentally, anyone know what Simon is doing now? i heard that he had focal dystonia, and his website disappeared a while ago. Can't find any recent concert appearances mentioned anywhere.
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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby TomasMolina » Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:08 pm

I am first generation me :lol:
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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby flameproof » Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:30 pm

I'm an orphan too. (sniff)
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Postby JorgeCerveza » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:51 pm

Yeah, but what does this have to do with Kevin Bacon?

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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby choctawchas » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:56 pm

My teacher, Masakazu Ito completed his Master's degree with Ricardo Iznaola at the University of Denver's Lamont school of music.Masa Ito had his professional debut in Tokyo in 1987.Masa has won top prizes in seven major international guitar competitions,including the Andres Segovia International Guitar Competition, the Tokyo International Guitar Competition, the Guitar Foundation of America International Guitar Competition, and the Seto Ohashi International Competition.
He has recorded many CDs of both his own compositions and CG repertoire.He has concertised world wide since 1995 and is a member of the Lamont Guitar Faculty alongside Ricardo Iznaola and Jonathan Leathwood.

Ricardo Iznaola was born in Havana, Cuba, in 1949, and trained in Caracas under maestros Manuel Pérez Díaz and Alirio Díaz, and in Madrid under
Regino Sainz de la Maza, while pursuing studies in Theory and Composition at Madrid's Royal Conservatory.He is well known worldwide for his path-breaking work as a concert and recording artist, composer, teacher, lecturer and writer.Iznaola has won top prizes in ten international competitions, including the Munich International Performance Competition, the Francisco Tárrega Competition, the Alirio Díaz Competition, the Stroud International Composer's Competition, the NATS Art Song Composition Competition and the Realize Music Challenge Orchestral Composition Competition, among others.
The University of Denver has recognized Professor Iznaola's achievements as a creative artist, scholar and pedagogue by naming him University Lecturer, in 1999, and Distinguished Lamont Faculty Artist in 1990 and in 2004 was honored with the 'John Evans Distinguished Professor in Music'.

Regino Sainz de la Maza was born in Burgos (Spain) on September 7 1896.
In 1906 he began his musical studies under professor Eugenio Rodríguez Pascual.
In 1910, he continued his studies with professors Landache, Quesada and Pagola and later in Madrid with Daniel Fortea.
In 1920 he played for the first time at the Lara Theatre, Madrid with Manuel de Falla in a concerto for the National Society of Music. In 1921 he began his a concert tours of South America playing 90 concertos.During this tour the National University in Buenos Aires (Argentina) awarded him a gold medal.
He began his first concerto tours in 1926-1929 performing in France, Germany, England and South America.
On November 6 1935 he is nominated a professor in guitar at the Conservatory of Music in Madrid.
On November 9 1940 he premiered the "Concierto de Aranjuez" by Joaquín Rodrigo, in Barcelona, with the Philharmonic Orchestra under César Mendoza Lasalla.
He was a close friend of Miguel Llobet and the composer Antonio José.

One of the few disciples of Francisco Tárrega, Daniel Fortea was born at Benlloch, Castellon de la Plana, Spain, April 28, 1878 and died there March 5, 1953. He commenced the study of guitar at an early age and eventually became a popular concert artist appearing in Madrid, Barcelona and other important cities in Spain. He was a prolific composer of lighter repertoire such as national airs and dances. He published his own works and soon established the firm Biblioteca Fortea, issuing over 700 hundred works for the guitar.

Francisco Tárrega was born in Villareal, Spain on November 21, 1852. He was one of the most influential guitarists the world has ever known. Tárrega transcribed numerous works from the great masters, Bach, Beethoven and composed many timeless works of his own. Francisco Tárrega's music and style of guitar playing became strongly influential in the twentieth century. He was central to reviving the guitar as a solo instrument in recital and concerts.


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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby Erik Zurcher » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:08 pm

Segovia > Antonio Pereira Arias > Henk Westhiner > me
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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby Larry McDonald » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:15 pm

In order they are...

Segovia -James Yogurtian -George Lindquist -me
Segovia -Ken Beil -me
Richard Pick -Susan Gulick -me
Segovia -Javier Calderon -me
My Students -me

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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby Denian Arcoleo » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:59 pm

Larry McDonald wrote:My Students -me
Lare


That's clever and rather cool :)
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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby Tarbaby » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:43 am

smwink wrote:Tarrega -> Pujol -> Robert Paul Sullivan -> me.

Same for me. Smwink and I PMd about it once!

(Only I actually went to a Pujol Master Class). :wink:

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Re: I am descended from Tarrega, what about you ?

Postby justsomebody » Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:05 am

Hey, I can do that too! 8)
Tarrega ---> Emilio Pujol ---> guitarist and musicologist Craig Russell ---> Me
..though the last connection is fairly tenuous -- I've had the good fortune of having Dr. Russell as an academic advisor and professor, but I've had most of my lessons with other people.
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