Is it a Cedar? Is it a Spruce? - #3

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Re: Is it a Cedar? Is it a Spruce? - #3

Postby Steve Ganz » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:06 am

Thanks for taking the time to respond and post the music. We agree that most of the sound is in the hands of the builder. I like the cooking metaphor... in the same way that most of the dinner is in the hands of the chef. For recordings like this I think the player actually comes through most strongly. For cooking, it's the chef. Since you are familiar with the player, you can remove that variability from consideration.
I think that the difference in sound from cedar to spruce can be subtle and telling the difference between them depends upon removing factors other than the wood (as much as possible.) If I'm trying to tell the difference between Kobe beef and Angus, should I add lots of A1 sauce?... ( I love steak sauce!) or should I taste without the sauce. I look forward to #4.


rojarosguitar wrote:Steve, sorry if expressed myself in a way that makes you think I would want to impose my sound ideal on other people. Not at all.
I'm just trying to analyze which factors are decisive for the different attributes of a guitar, like attack, sustain, etc. And from my own experience (of a user, not a maker of guitars!) the wood seems to be less important than the constructive concepts used by the luthier. That's all I'm saying. I do not deny that the wood adds quite some characteristics on top of the constructive concept.

I'm really glad that there are so many wonderful guitar makers around realizing their ideas ... that what makes the guitar construction so alive these days. It's a golden age of classical guitar
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Re: Is it a Cedar? Is it a Spruce? - #3

Postby Steve Ganz » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:32 pm

I have provided one without reverb ... and started a topic to remain parallel to this one.

http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=67749#p742697
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Re: Is it a Cedar? Is it a Spruce? - #3

Postby rojarosguitar » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:41 am

There is a continuation of this game from my side; this time without any processing, especially no reverb! And: all guitars the same piece, Lágrima.
I hope it'll be easier for you to determine what is what ...

The recordings are in different threads, so that they are not going to be mixed up.

See: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=67784

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