Vlad Kosulin wrote:And let's not mix Segovia as CG player and Segovia as personality.
Dillan_S wrote:John Williams (in 1999) has called him a very limited teacher and a limited musician
Related to this point, I would like to add a comment about Bach on the guitar made to me by [b]Yehudi Menuhin, the great American violinist, in Jerusalem in March 1979. He said, "the Segovia playing of the Bach Chaconne in D minor was, in a word, thick;" and when I asked him to explain he said: "the transcription to guitar of this work didn't seem to work because there is too much contrast in tones, too much rubato in shifting positions and dreadful phrasing
John Williams, of course, doesn't make excuses for how hard it is to play the guitar, like Segovia, and if the rhythm should be like...completely driving in a dance music, he doesn't slow down because it's difficult.
Pete wrote:Vlad Kosulin wrote:And let's not mix Segovia as CG player and Segovia as personality.
I agree with Vlad in that this debate does seem to have somewhat taken that turn.
The interview with Micheal after the masterclass was particlarly interesting in that it showed that he was deeply shocked by the whole experience but had clearly taken the internal decision to grin and bear it and try to get something from the whole experience. This was proven correct on the fourth day of the masterclass where the recital was successful and Micheal left feeling presumably shaken but having felt he had truly learned something. On the whole a rough ride but with a successful outcome. Occassional turbulence in the wake of Segovia's journey is/was an inevitable consequence i feel of the mans innate genius and is something that needs to be lived with rather than used as a means to demean his achievements.
. A sufficient reduction to absurdity of the premise of the OP. Nuff said.I wonder if the man that invented the wheel was 'morally correct'.
Some topics for further discussion might be:
1. Stroking a students ego or 'tough love: Which is the best teaching method?
2. CG technique, changes and evolution from the days of Sor to now
3. Blindly following iconic figures (from the past) and it's limitations on evolution
4. When a student surpasses the teacher does this show the teacher as 'limited'?
5. Surviving the minefield of political turmoil or taking a stand / An examination of the rise of fascism in Europe
Dillan_S wrote:Related to this point, I would like to add a comment about Bach on the guitar made to me by Yehudi Menuhin, the great American violinist, in Jerusalem in March 1979. He said, "the Segovia playing of the Bach Chaconne in D minor was, in a word, thick;"
Praeludium wrote:I don't think the OP was saying we should stop considering him as a great guitarist and major artist of the XXth century.
Dillan_S wrote:...Nay it's information that makes me worry, why it's not known more widely!
Information that others probably want to withhold from you, because it's so controversial!!!...
I got it from here:
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