Evan wrote:hesson11 wrote:To answer some of your questions: I have the 615/48 Cadete, not the C3M.
I still don't really get why the 615 isn't offered in Matt finish. Well, nevertheless...
What strings are you playing with?
I'm curious about how string tension works and changes play on a short scale. As I understand it, when tuning to standard EADGBE, the strings would be under a little less tension. Is that tension increasingly more noticible as the scale decreases? ...rather, is it noticible between the different scales (650, 640, 630 etc)?
And does that affect the tone by ....darkening it? Is that a good way to describe the tone change?
Has anyone tried the NylGut strings on a shorter scale? --  nix that. I recall Rob saying he did on his 600mm guitar - but he also says he tuned down a bit. So, has anyone tried NylGut strings on a shorter scale and tuned to standard EADGBE? I'm still learning notes on the fretboard and really don't want to introduce undue confusion into the mix until I'm comfortable with all note names. (I am progressing towards that goal though)
Michael.N. wrote:OK Evan, here's how it works. This issue seems to confuse a great many Players, largely those coming from the modern Classical Guitar.
Given that the string type (therefore gauge) and pitch remains unchanged, decreasing the string length will result in less tension i.e. the string will have more 'give' under the fingers. To restore back to a higher tension, you have to increase the thickness or diameter of each string.
rotary joint wrote:Rob MacKillop is a very good player with a wealth of knowledge. Why not email him for a bit of advise?
Beth F-R wrote:If you search in the "ergonomics" subforum, you will find several threads on this topic,
hesson11 wrote:The Alhambra Senoritas are supposed to be good too, but I think the shortest scale length is 636 (anybody know if that's right?).
Michael.N. wrote:Anyway, here's what you need:
For a guide on string tensions of Romantic guitars see the section under 'Strings' :
Michael.N. wrote:BTW Rob also plays a Rodriguez 'senorita' C3 model with Aquila Silk and Gut strings. I think it's 600 mm string length.
I don't understand why Aquila state that Nylgut can't be used on string lengths above 63 cm's. It's used all the time on Lutes, Theorbos and Baroque Guitars - way above 63 cm's!
ritchie wrote:I have Cashimira 16, which has a 63cm scale. It only cost me ÂŁ120 used, but it is very well made and is excellent value new. I also have a luthier made 65mm which is much better, but I still like to play the Cashimira and while it has a quieter softer sound it is easy to play.
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