jean noel rohe

[pichy]

Anyone try his guitar? I heard from someone that his waiting list is now 4 years. GSI will get one around the end of this year. Do you think his guitar will exceed 10K in US market?

[Matthew22]

they exceed 10GBP at kent guitars so I think they will be closer to 15k US.

[pichy]

they exceed 10GBP at kent guitars so I think they will be closer to 15k US.

That's really expensive Maybe Jean Noel Rohe price exceed Bernabe Imperial soon?

[Matthew22]

maybe, maybe not, in any case I don't see why it matters, at this price range and even much lower there isn't a steady ratio between price-level of instrument.

[Section_10]

I was close to getting one, but at that point it was worth the price. He's a young new maker who's few guitars really have a refined tone and he's doing very well. But 4 years wait and a price over $12k now is no longer worth it. Better guitars for the money available now.
The hype over his guitars unfortunately sparked a lot of interest and many have bought a spot on his list even without playing them. Some don't realize what a hype is.
If people brag about a $4000 guitar that sounds like a $10,000 guitar then yes he will eventually sell more, increase wait time and price will rise to the level he's at.
IMO the Rohe did this but at the higher bracket to start. Dealers knew his guitars played like a $10,000 guitar and that became the entry price.
Like I said, theres better for the money at this point, and its NOTHING against Jean as a builder, I think its great for him. Its just the way the market/dealers work though.

[Tom]

I agree with Section 10... May be the hype is the relationship he has with some top name maker in France like Daniel... Etc... And plus some dealers factor...

There are much better choice than this in the market.

I have nothing against Rohe but just my fair opinion.

[Matthew22]

I guessing both of you have played his instrument? It would be nice, if your giving perspective about his instruments, to give an example or two about guitars above and at his level?

[Section_10]

I can maybe find notes from them, but it was several years ago. I'm assuming his guitars are the same now maybe a tad refined. I know Bernabes well, but wouldn't know a direct comparison. I'll tell u that one of those dealers never cared for Bernabes, but Stafford guitars carries both. You can find my reviews of my Imperial and other Bernabes on here. The video that was posted with those fine guitars playing the Bach fugue helps put in perspective the tone character of the Rohe. It's more Field than Friederich, I prefer the Friederich tone. Rohe will have great projection, but I'm entirely sold on it's tone for me. I like the glassier bouncier tone of a Friederich and Delarue.

[mae]

Stafford hasn't carried Rohé guitars for a couple of years.

[Guitar-ded]

Even Kent Guitar Classics have their allocation pre-sold until the 2015 model which is available for pre-order now.
Hype is a mighty market influence although I'm sure they are fine instruments.

From the site:
Jean-Nöel Rohé is a maker who follows in the traditions and ethos of Dominique Field and Daniel Friederich. In 2004 Jean-Nöel was awarded the title "Un des Meilleur Ouvrier de France" (one of the best craftsmen in France) and in 2007 received an award in Cremona for high build quality. He makes only about 10 guitars each year in order to achieve the meticulous build and finish quality he strives for. Made in a completely traditional style using top quality materials and fan-braced fronts, his guitars have a refined sound with clarity, quite loud, good voice separation, roundness of sound, excellent balance and with character but not too much to get in the way. The fine detail of the rosette indicates the meticulous attention to Jean-Noel's construction standard. His more recent guitars have a rigid body with internally-lined sides for strength of sound - and modified harmonic bars aimed at producing consistency of sound quality throughout the range.

[davidpetersonharvey]

I worked with Joshua French at Mars Music when he came in with his prototype (non-tournavoz) guitar. It was an incredible instrument and I ordered one on the spot. My guitar used a 50-year-old piece of German spruce. When it arrived, I was surprised at how much better it was than the prototype. It was the most incredible guitar I had ever heard or played.

I can tell you that my guitar, and others he has made, have been compared favorably to much more expensive guitars, not because of any arrangement he has with these people but because it was their honest reaction. Josh was extremely and pleasantly surprised at the response, not the reaction of someone who has arranged the circumstances.

I have lost touch with Josh and miss having beer with him at Fitz down the road from his house. However, what I can tell you about him is that he was always a very genuine person and not one to manufacture such complements to his work. During the early few years of his guitar making, when I was still in touch with him, these things only seemed to affect him as pleasant surprises.

As for the quality of his guitars, mine is the finest I have ever played. You would have to be the judge about whether they are worth the money you are talking about. I only wish now that I had ordered a tournavoz guitar from him when I had the chance at a much lower price. Even more, I wish Josh and I were in touch and could go have a beer together. I've been brewing some stuff that I think he would find very interesting.

Warmest regards,
David Peterson Harvey

[GeoffB]

Hi David, welcome to the forum. Could I invite you to introduce yourself here?

Geoff

[mae]

Out of curiosity, where were Rohé guitars hyped?

[Tom]

Out of curiosity, where were Rohé guitars hyped?

Good question!

Answer: Kent Classic

[Matthew22]

I worked with Joshua French at Mars Music when he came in with his prototype (non-tournavoz) guitar. It was an incredible instrument and I ordered one on the spot. My guitar used a 50-year-old piece of German spruce. When it arrived, I was surprised at how much better it was than the prototype. It was the most incredible guitar I had ever heard or played.

I can tell you that my guitar, and others he has made, have been compared favorably to much more expensive guitars, not because of any arrangement he has with these people but because it was their honest reaction. Josh was extremely and pleasantly surprised at the response, not the reaction of someone who has arranged the circumstances.

I have lost touch with Josh and miss having beer with him at Fitz down the road from his house. However, what I can tell you about him is that he was always a very genuine person and not one to manufacture such complements to his work. During the early few years of his guitar making, when I was still in touch with him, these things only seemed to affect him as pleasant surprises.

As for the quality of his guitars, mine is the finest I have ever played. You would have to be the judge about whether they are worth the money you are talking about. I only wish now that I had ordered a tournavoz guitar from him when I had the chance at a much lower price. Even more, I wish Josh and I were in touch and could go have a beer together. I've been brewing some stuff that I think he would find very interesting.

Warmest regards,
David Peterson Harvey

mmmmm ok as a owner of a Tornavoz'd Joshoa French guitar I can too say it is a wonderful and special guitar. however, we are talking about JEAN NOEL ROHE from France. Josh's prices were still very resonable (around 3800 base price) when he disappeared a few years back. do you maybe know whats with him? every once in a while I wonder if something bad happened to him or if he just became overwhelmed, when I was getting my guitar from him he was very busy.