Tuners - What dictates quality and high price?

[Guitar-ded]

On the other side of the coin don't you hate it when you see a decent, or worse, very expensive guitar with $70 Schallers attached. I'm not getting at any particular maker here but it seems to happen fairly recently to guitars with prices where something a bit better would seem to be in order.

BTW, if anyone is looking for a set of Fusteros I have a new in the box set sitting in a drawer, hand engraved, snakewood buttons with black rollers, if anyone is interested give me a pm.

[GuitarVlog]

Is there some sort of expected ratio of tuner retail value to guitar price?

So if your guitar is priced at x the installed tuners should have a retail value of about (or at least) y-% to x?

[AdamX]

I'd say 10% of value, with a floor of $70 (Schallers). I wouldn't put anything cheaper than that on a guitar. I would also mention Rubner as good option for sub-$2000 guitars.

This formula works for me ... I put Schallers on a $700 Mexican factory guitar. Guitars in the $2000+ range deserve Gotoh Premium or Sloanes, and guitars ~$4000+ start to be worthy of Rodgers, Scheller, Alessi etc.

[GuitarVlog]

What's the equivalent value of wooden tuning pegs like what we see on flamenco guitars, baroque guitars, and other period instruments?

[rojarosguitar]

Recently I had the chance to compare Scheller against Alessi against Rodgers, all three installed by Sebsatian Stenzel on three of his guitars. They all have their distinctive features. For my taste Scheller were the technically most well engineered, Alessi were just fine and Rodgers were between them, but looking very classy. A special feature of Rodgers seems to be that they stay in place, but if you loosen the string, it feels almost as if you felt the string tension with your fingers - very direct.

Stenzels' standard tuner is Alessi without extra payment, so I went with Alessi, because they are more than good enough for me, but if I was into fancy tuners, I'd take the Schellers for how smooth they work.

[bacsidoan]

Recently I had the chance to compare Scheller against Alessi against Rodgers, all three installed by Sebsatian Stenzel on three of his guitars. They all have their distinctive features. For my taste Scheller were the technically most well engineered, Alessi were just fine and Rodgers were between them, but looking very classy. A special feature of Rodgers seems to be that they stay in place, but if you loosen the string, it feels almost as if you felt the string tension with your fingers - very direct.

Stenzels' standard tuner is Alessi without extra payment, so I went with Alessi, because they are more than good enough for me, but if I was into fancy tuners, I'd take the Schellers for how smooth they work.

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[tuk]

...anyone know what these are?

tuners.jpg

[OldPotter]

The design looks just like Schaller's, the bearings which hold the knob axle are typical. I'm never sure whether these are genuine or a cheaper copy. Schallers are not really expensive anyway. A lot of Spanish makers are using something very similar.

Regards Tim

[Alexandru Marian]

Alhambra tuners. Not too bad at all.

[tuk]

had a look through the Schaller range & couldn't find anything that matches ..at first I thought the 3-prongs at the end was a particular brand but more than one manuf. use that shape ..it's not an Alhambra guitar...do they make tuners?

[Alexandru Marian]

It's definitively the same tuners as on the more expensive Alhambra guitars. Not sure if they make them themselves but some are stamped with an A in the lyre area.

[tuk]

thanks AM, the tuners on the Alhambra India are very close but there are some subtle differences

if you check at: 12:40mins - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDaxbbEKIIg against my pic you will see what I mean

[Alexandru Marian]

100% the same tuners. Yours simply lacks the A logo, or it might be even obscured by a what seems to be an additional screw on your guitar.

[Dofpic]

I have had them all. I think Graf and Rogers are the best but for me it is Rogers for same reasons as Riff says. To tune is almost a sensual experience they are so smooth.

[LBrandt]

I have several guitars, but the last guitar that I bought is by far the least expensive that I have. It's a Yamaha CG172SF, and surprisingly the tuners are extremely smooth.