The Cost of Hausers through the years?

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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Michael.N. » Fri May 04, 2012 4:46 pm

By any other name would sound as sweet.
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Neptune » Fri May 04, 2012 6:11 pm

Robert England wrote:Did I read correctly in a previous post that Kathrin has made 17 guitars so far, and she is charging $20,000 each aleady? That's a valuable name!
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I asked her last week what she alone is charging. the prices range from 10,600 Euro to 12,200 Euro.
Her father of course is charging more for his guitars.
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Julian » Sat May 05, 2012 2:45 am

I think she is selling the Hauser family name, not the guitar at that quality.

I listened to some of her guitars at youtube. To me, others sound zillion times better.

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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Wayne S » Sat May 05, 2012 3:19 am

Julian I have to agree, I have listened to many great guitars that cost a lot less than a modern Hauser.

Luthiers all need to make a living but there comes a point at which prices don't match the quality of sound that a player would expect. I do think some luthiers are making money from the name Like Fashion houses and Cosmetic companies do.
It takes about 150 hours to hand make a CG and there is always the costs for wood, tools running costs etc, etc, after all that is taken out the luthier should make a reasonable hourly rate for their work and some profit.
The problem is that some makers charge way and beyond, I have seen prices from $25,000 to $50,000 for a CG. Luthiers have every right to charge any price they want of course, but prospective buyers are now well educated and want value for money.
I have played guitars that were half the cost of a $20,000 Guitar, looked just as good played as well and sounded better.
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Julian » Sun May 06, 2012 7:10 am

Wayne, that's what I meant.

I don't disagree the way luthiers charge their guitars. It is their rights and is fine the ways it is mostly: the material costs, the expertise, living costs.

But I do believe that when a luthier charge a guitar at a given price (high price in this case), the guitar (or sound in this instance) must be worth the money. Not just because of the name. (Or probably done so with some marketing strategy). I've proven that. I don't have a Hauser. Never seen one either. I only listened to Hauser sound through a recording of Hauser's ambassador: Julian Bream who is probably the most qualified Marketing Director for Hauser. But I have a Hauser derivative made by another fine German Fritz Ober. My Ober is simply a guitar of a century from my point of view with only costing me less than a half of Hauser which is probably no better than my Ober.

Let us admire and respect those luthiers who make guitars with love and passion, without calculating too much costs of living into the equation.


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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Neptune » Sun May 06, 2012 7:17 pm

Julian wrote:Let us admire and respect those luthiers who make guitars with love and passion, without calculating too much costs of living into the equation.


I second that!
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Neptune » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:31 am

This is a phenomenal sounding Hauser bought by Pepe Romero for $30,000. What a guitar!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0yCbqjs ... ture=share
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby simonm » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:45 am

A quick look at the famous auction site this morning reveals a new Martin "custom shop" with Brailian RW for a $25k. Custom shop, or not, this is essentially a factory guitar. There is a another (used) which is no 49 from a "limited" edition of 500 for $8.5k.

In that context luthier classical guitars whether Hauser, or someone much less well know, are plain cheap.
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Supperconductor » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:59 pm

Neptune wrote:This is a phenomenal sounding Hauser bought by Pepe Romero for $30,000. What a guitar!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0yCbqjs ... ture=share

I was there when this video was made, it's a spectacular sounding instrument.
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby David_Norton » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:27 pm

Supperconductor wrote:I was there when this video was made, it's a spectacular sounding instrument.


For thirty thousand dollars, "spectacular sounding" needs to be the minimal qualifying standard!
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Supperconductor » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:40 pm

David_Norton wrote:
Supperconductor wrote:I was there when this video was made, it's a spectacular sounding instrument.


For thirty thousand dollars, "spectacular sounding" needs to be the minimal qualifying standard!


HAHA, I agree!
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Neptune » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:34 am

Supperconductor wrote:
Neptune wrote:This is a phenomenal sounding Hauser bought by Pepe Romero for $30,000. What a guitar!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0yCbqjs ... ture=share

I was there when this video was made, it's a spectacular sounding instrument.


Did you get to play it?
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Supperconductor » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:35 am

I was offered the chance to play this and several other very expensive instruments. I declined because I'm avoiding temptation. I could have wound up buying it. I know, this sounds irrational, but that's just how Impulsive I can be.
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Neptune » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:16 am

What an inspiration to know that would be the only reason to decline playing that masterpiece! ooof!
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Re: The Cost of Hausers through the years?

Postby Alexandru Marian » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:42 pm

It's interesting that while having a beautiful tone, it doesn't seem to carry much punch. Perhaps it is the playing or the recording but to me it evokes a very delicate presence. If that's true, goes to show how nice is to have a solid reputation that trumps fashion. Lesser builders are constantly pressed (by both customers and other builders) to go louder and louder and louder...
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