Ripple on Top: Is This OK?

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Ripple on Top: Is This OK?

Postby FHC » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:23 pm

I need some help from our luthiers. I am watching this classical guitar on e - b a y and needed some feedback regarding a comment the seller notes.

CONDITION: This guitar (Yairi CYM95) was built in 2009. PLEASE NOTE: There is slight rippling affect on the top, behind the the bridge (see pics). These guitars are known to do that,(due to the very thin top) and this IN NO WAY affects the playability, the sound or the stability of the instrument. The bridge is very sound. I just want to make sure everyone is aware of this fact.

Should this concern me as a potential buyer? Does this indicate lack of proper humidity? This guitar is located in Mesa, Arizona.

Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: Need Advice from Luthiers

Postby Marcus Dominelli » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:49 am

I did not look up the guitar, so have not seen pictures of it, BUT, if you're referring to the "telegraphing" of the braces through the top, which usually forms a ripling effect behind the bridge, then I would not be too concerned about it.

Personally I dont like this kind of ripling, but I owned a Paracho made guitar years ago that had it, and it's still in great shape. It's more of an aesthetic defect , rather than a structural one. Common on fan braced guitars with thin tops.

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Re: Need Advice from Luthiers

Postby FHC » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:59 am

Marcus thanks for the reply.

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Re: Need Advice from Luthiers

Postby gabasa » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:21 am

I have seen a few CYM95 guitar in stores locally and I used to own one. Every single one had that rippling, even brand new.

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Re: Need Advice from Luthiers

Postby HNLim » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:34 am

I have an S.Yairi 800 and an S.Yairi 950. Both have this ripple, both build in 1974, both sounds fantastic.
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Re: Ripple on Top: Is This OK?

Postby FHC » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:58 am

I wonder how common this rippling is for other brands and luthier-made CG's? Is this mainly due to the bracing pattern or the thinness of the top?

I read that the Yairi CYM95 is made using the Ramirez transverse bracing pattern.

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Re: Ripple on Top: Is This OK?

Postby HNLim » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:54 pm

FHC wrote:I wonder how common this rippling is for other brands and luthier-made CG's? Is this mainly due to the bracing pattern or the thinness of the top?

I read that the Yairi CYM95 is made using the Ramirez transverse bracing pattern.

I also have it on my Esteve Adilid and Yamaha GC41. All sound fantastic. Recently a "Guitar hospital" got my S.Yairi 800 finger board lifted off the neck after sending it for neck straightening. The strings were off for several months and the ripple almost disappear. I have since ripped off the entire finger board together with the top to make a multi-string guitar.

If after almost 40 years and the guitar is still fantastic, I think you should not have any worry there.
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Re: Ripple on Top: Is This OK?

Postby FHC » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:31 pm

So, I guess having a ripple on top is ok. Seems strange to me.

Any other luthiers want to weigh in on this discussion?

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Re: Ripple on Top: Is This OK?

Postby Tarbaby » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:05 pm

My 2003 Sergio Abreu has that ripple and Sergio told me that is normal. :wink:

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