Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

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Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Kristian Nøhr » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:49 pm

I have good audio interface, ok mics (Small diagram condensors - Rode nt5 pair)

I have 4 preamps, so I would like to add a 3rd mic to mix up the sound...

I've read tons of advice, and it seems like ribbon mic's are having a renassaince....

I know Royer mics are great, but what about Superlux r102...?

Or other simular budget mics..??
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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Cincy2 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:08 pm

I use a BeyerDynamic M160 with good results. There is a thread on the forum somewhere about this mike and others used to record CG.

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Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Kristian Nøhr » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:25 pm

Cincy2 wrote:I use a BeyerDynamic M160 with good results. There is a thread on the forum somewhere about this mike and others used to record CG.

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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Mykart » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:42 pm

Look into Cascade ribbon mics, they get great reviews and are budget friendly.
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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Per Lindhof » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:45 pm

Hi Kristian.
I'm curious. How will you set up the third mic? Which configuration do you already use with the NT5s?
What do you wish to accomplish with no 3?

I've done a few experiments too with three mics, but I never succeded in getting anything but a messed up signal.

I look forward to hear more.

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Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Kristian Nøhr » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:42 pm

Hi Per

Well I havent recorded anything with three mics yet.

And Im not sure I will...I really like the sound of my new M-160 alone...

Im not sure it would be better together with the nt5's, so now Im considering a single LDC instead.....

But for now Im happy :-)

I also switched audio interface Im the meanwhile....Got a Bose t1, improoved my nt5's aswell

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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby natenajar » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:59 pm

I just made a new record and we recorded my guitar with an AEA KU4. It was the most real thing I have ever heard.

The guitar wans't actually *my* guitar. it was Charlie Byrd's 1974 Ramirez 1A.

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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Mykart » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:25 pm

Wow, a AEA KU4? Would love to hear it. Although at 4K, not really budget-friendly. Or more importantly, not really wife-friendly.
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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby natenajar » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:22 pm

Mykart wrote:Wow, a AEA KU4? Would love to hear it. Although at 4K, not really budget-friendly. Or more importantly, not really wife-friendly.


Ha! I didn't buy the mic. We borrowed it from AEA for the session....
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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby rojarosguitar » Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:08 pm

natenajar, is it possible to hear the results somewhere? Youtube link?

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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Kristian Nøhr » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:56 pm

I have just recorded a totally dry version of a prelude in f# minor by Ponce - with my Beyerdynamic M-160. Cant post it here but its on my Utube channel....
Theres two versions, its the newest one,

If you would like to hear the mic....
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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Per Lindhof » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:11 am

Hi Kristian
Very nice recording - almost Segovia the old fashion way (meant positive).
It the M-160 a stereo mic? It says "double ribbon" in the add.

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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Kristian Nøhr » Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:54 am

Per Lindhof wrote:Hi Kristian
Very nice recording - almost Segovia the old fashion way (meant positive).
It the M-160 a stereo mic? It says "double ribbon" in the add.

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Hi Per, Well Im not sure, but when i record in audacity - it automatically records a stereo track, dont know If that means anything....?
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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby rojarosguitar » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:37 am

Per, this a mono mic. Double ribbon means two ribbon elements in a mono mic.

True stereo ribbon mics are only a few AFAIK.

Cheaper: Cascade x-15 (very decent chinese make, tuned in the USA) and more expensive: AEA R88, Coles 4050 stereo and different stereo Models made by Royer. All of them excellent on classical guitar (if you have a suitable preamp, meaning high input impedance, very hig and clean gain).

But of course you can combine any two equal ribbon mics into a stereo configuration (Blumlein, MS, Faulkner, because most true ribbon mics are figure eight).

The M-160 mentioned in the post would be suitable as mid microphone of a M/S array, because it is a hypercardioid mic. To complement it the M-130 of the same maker is highly recommandable. Both together are an excellent stereo combination for M/S recording for comparatively little money (of course that's very relative).

As one can read in many places the Beyerdynamic ribbon mics are ways better than theirmprice would indicate (yes, most often good mics are very expensive).

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Re: Ribbon mic? Anyone with experience?

Postby Kristian Nøhr » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:22 pm

I bought the BD M160 for live purposes, where i find it an excellent option....but its also an option for small home recordings too.
Not sure i Will use it for my next cd though ;)
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