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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Ed Butler » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:13 pm

Colin - should your elbow be straight down, further away from the body or closer to the body. I have a similar bent wrist issue as Zafar and I am trying to work on having it more straight.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Zafar Haq » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:30 pm

Hi,Colin,
Thanks for your advice.
I watched Chu last month video.I'll pull my left elbow away from my body.It is not a comfortable feeling.I'll record another clip to observe the difference.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Colin Bullock » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:18 pm

Zafar Haq wrote:Hi,Colin,
Thanks for your advice.
I watched Chu last month video.I'll pull my left elbow away from my body.It is not a comfortable feeling.I'll record another clip to observe the difference.

Ed Butler wrote:Colin - should your elbow be straight down, further away from the body or closer to the body. I have a similar bent wrist issue as Zafar and I am trying to work on having it more straight.


A small amount of bend is necessary at times but the further the wrist bends towards the inside of the forearm the more the tendons will be restricted.
It's a case of trying to find a position that is comfortable and this will vary for each person. I find pushing the elbow away from the body can lead to tension in the shoulder so the best position for me is close to the body. I saw advice to relax the arm and let it hang down, then bend the elbow to bring the hand up to the fingerboard level, then adjust the angle of the guitar, up/down, back/forward until the fingerboard sits under the hand.
I've spent quite a bit of time adjusting position to find something that works for me.
I also find it better to have the guitar soundboard as vertical as possible, although some advise a slight back tilt.
There is probably a lot of advice in the ergonomics/posture section of the forum viewforum.php?f=71

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Ed Butler » Sat Oct 08, 2016 11:41 pm

Colin - thanks for the advice. I will look at the forum.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Colin Bullock » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:47 am

Anyone thoughts on fingering the g starting second line of Sor (p50). From pattern of first line it would use a, but that is finger used for previous note.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby DaveMoutrie » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:56 am

Colin Bullock wrote:Anyone thoughts on fingering the g starting second line of Sor (p50). From pattern of first line it would use a, but that is finger used for previous note.



From the start of line 2 I found that m-i-m-i-m-i-i-m-i-m seems to work OK, or as you said repeating the a from the previous line would be an alternative.

Hope this helps. :)
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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby DaveMoutrie » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:12 pm

Just been having another look at the fingering for line 2 of opus 35.

You could avoid the double i by using: m-i-m-i-m-i-m-a-i-m
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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Ed Butler » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:42 pm

another alternative is m-I-m-a-m-I-m-a-m-i

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Ed Butler » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:51 pm

Any thoughts on how to do the rests on line 3, first beat of each measure?

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Colin Bullock » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:04 pm

Ed Butler wrote:Any thoughts on how to do the rests on line 3, first beat of each measure?

I'm trying using i for the inner line so can rest that finger on the G at beginning of each bar

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby DaveMoutrie » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:31 pm

That makes sense, I'm just using i m a on the on the top 3 strings (trebbles) where they would fall naturally.
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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Andrei Puhach » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:57 pm

Hi friends, here is my Lesson 02 assignment:

page 102 DELCAMP DAMP (exercise #54):

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page 87 DELCAMP EXTENSIONS (exercise #9):

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page 50 Fernando SOR (1778-1839) EXERCICE II opus 35:

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page 65 Mattéo CARCASSI (1792-1853) VALSE opus 59 (bonus content):

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I think the most important lesson I learned is combining free and rest strokes without changing the right hand position.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Andrei Puhach » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:12 pm

Ed Butler wrote:Slowing down the DAMP Exercise


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Hi Ed, I don't think the exercise is done completely right: the point here is to do muting and plucking at the same time.
1. Pluck D with 'p'.
2. Pluck G with 'i' and damp D with 'p' (simultaneously).
3. Pluck D with 'p' and damp G with 'i' (simultaneously).
4. Continue #2, #3.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Zafar Haq » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:22 pm

Hi, Andrei Puhach,
Well done.
I watched,listen closely all your study assignments.
Good tempo,rhythm,melody.
Good,audio,video,lighting posture quality.
If you tell more about your comment in your bonus exercise "I think the most important lesson I learned is combining free and rest strokes without changing the right hand position."It is good sounding exercise.It is also good for arpeggio practice.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 02

Postby Andrei Puhach » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:03 am

Zafar Haq wrote:Hi, Andrei Puhach,
Well done.
I watched,listen closely all your study assignments.
Good tempo,rhythm,melody.
Good,audio,video,lighting posture quality.
If you tell more about your comment in your bonus exercise "I think the most important lesson I learned is combining free and rest strokes without changing the right hand position."It is good sounding exercise.It is also good for arpeggio practice.


Thank you, Zafar, for watching!
Well, I was not very accurate with that saying... The pieces did not require playing rest strokes anywhere, I did it myself at some places to make the sound fuller. As you already noted a while ago, the sound is too metallic sometimes. It is because of the hand position + nail shape. I'm totally aware of the issue and working on it. Currently my index finger produces worst sound at free strokes. So I replaced it with rest strokes in a couple of places. Previously, it was difficult for me to switch between free and rest strokes fast, now it gets easier for the index finger at least.
It is that not this particular exercise taught me that, it is that by this time I got better at it and applied this skill to the pieces.


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