D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

[Goran Penic]

Ross, very nice Paganini.

Richard. Very good performance.

[Goran Penic]

Stewart. Very nice Lession.
Paganini is also good, but there is little oscillations in the second part.

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[PS Goran - thanks for doing the index. I think you've got me down as having done the Valse, but it was the Prelude I recorded.]

It is now fixed

[Jack Jarrett]

Goran for adding the links to the uploads, definitely saves time. I liked all your uploads, you are controlled and relaxed, with very few noticeable flaws and your tempos are good for early posts. Like you I am also trying to multitask, doing 2 lessons, which has pushed me to my limit on available practice time for each piece. But I am trying to stick it out, so my apologies to everyone for not being as involved with the comments as some of you. I find most times the observations by others are better, and when I have a thought it usually has been addressed by someone. I assure each of you I try to listen to each of your uploads, and am very humbled by the talent that we have on this lesson!

Here are my first submissions:

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[Coen van Dijk]

Mark wrote: ....in an attempt to add some expression and rubato. Trouble is, now I think it's lost the rhythmic pulse needed to be an effective dance piece

Steward wrote: I think I may have gone overboard on trying to be expressive.

I think there is no such thing as being too expressive. Beiing expressive is difficult, very important to practice, fun to do and gives a personal touch to the piece you are playing. And as long there is nobody dancing in the bedroom, kitchen or studyroom that wil stumble as you vary the rithm , I would say be as expressive as possible.There is more to music than just what it says on the paper....

Jack good job, especially considering the amount of music you are learning. I look at D04 always, but concentrate on D03 only. This month the D04 has beautiful music, but it is a lot to learn. You must have a strickt practice schedule to manage this all. I am a bit envious, thinking were you will be in a year with this practice schedule. Just listen to some of the D05 pieces (see the links above). There are some realy famous pieces that are D05. Cant wait to get there....

Richard, your work on the prelude with the fingers on the string seems to be paying off. Very minimalistic RH finger movement! You will need this technique once we start to do some tremelo stuff I think.

Ross, wel played, cant say more.

Goran, If you are not happy with the paganinni, tell me why. It is a good version. Maybe slow down a bit and then add bit more expressions. Have fun in D02!

Ned, Great posts. A bit more work to become more confident with the peices, but that is all, I think

[Goran Penic]

Jack, very well.A lot can be felt your parallel work in D04. You have the confidence and calmness when performing these "lighter" pieces in D03.

[Goran Penic]

Thank you for your kind comments, but I still am not satisfied with the old Paganini.
So I recorded a new version that is (in my opinion) somewhat better:


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[RossStep]

Jack, I agree with Coen. I think playing in both levels is paying off. I'm hearing a stronger attack and fuller tone. Hang in there.

Goran, You're up to tempo. I hear a noticeable improvement in the bass - more assertive attack and good, even damping. I think the next step is to decide which melody notes are the journey and which notes are the destination. My comment probably reflects my own struggles, rather than yours, but I thought I'd pass it along.

Good playing as usual, Ross

[Coen van Dijk]

think the next step is to decide which melody notes are the journey and which notes are the destination

Beautifully put. And I guess one achieves such differences in the notes by playing rubato, I would say. By "hanging" a bit longer on the destination notes than the other ones. And maybe by accenting them in sense of volume?

I notice that nobody, me including, is shifting their right hand in the panganini piece, despite Mr Delcamp advice. My problem is that it is difficult for me to shift it on, especially when I am higher up the neck. ALso, My RHhas to be pretty far up the neck to get a decent tone when the LH is also far up the neck. If the RH is close to the bridge, the sound is cold quickly. I switched to low tension strings last week, to see if there is an improvement, There is sllightly.

[Goran Penic]

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I notice that nobody, me including, is shifting their right hand in the panganini piece, despite Mr Delcamp advice. My problem is that it is difficult for me to shift it on, especially when I am higher up the neck. ALso, My RHhas to be pretty far up the neck to get a decent tone when the LH is also far up the neck. If the RH is close to the bridge, the sound is cold quickly. I switched to low tension strings last week, to see if there is an improvement, There is sllightly.

I do not have these problems. Even yesterday I made ​​such a version (I can upload it when I get home), but personally I think (in contrast to mr. Delcamp) this is a piece of lively enough in itself, and short enough that it can't become boring, so do not need such decorations.
After all, in this recording above I shifted my RH for the final part

[Mark Bacon]

I'm with Goran. After all, the piece is only about 30 seconds long! In hindsight I think that section about tone color was probably more in reference to the Waltz.

[Goran Penic]

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In hindsight I think that section about tone color was probably more in reference to the Waltz.

Or Carulli Prelude. I tried to play that piece with the constant movement of the RH - looks pretty good

[Goran Penic]

This is the version I talked about, but I do not see something special in it

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[Coen van Dijk]

Goran, I also agree it is a short piece and it does not need too much variation to keep it interesting. Still, here is a new version of the paganini with maybe too much variation. I do not use a lot of different tone colors, but I experimented with rubato.

d03-5-ghirbiizzo1_02.mp3

And here a new version of the Prelude. Nothing new there I guess, except that I felt more confident in regulating the volume with my thumb.

d03-5-prelude4_02.mp3

[Richard Judge]

Goran - The movement of your right hand doesn't seem to make much difference to the tone but you play it so well anyway
Coen - I don't like the rubato but the way the first beat in each bar is accented sounds good to me. It highlights the rhythm/tempo.

I am reading "The Musicians Way" and it suggests accenting the last beat in each bar to "Drive the rhythm" perhaps you could give that a try?

[Mark Bacon]

Gettin' there...except for the damping in that (%&$#* Paganini piece.