D02 Classical guitar lesson 08

[Robert Goodwin]

Hi Penelope,

Well done for a first recording I think the Menuet is another of those seemingly simple sounding pieces that prove to have a hidden complexity. Professor Delcamp seems diabolically adept at finding those

I don't know if this will help but I find that it's really the fret itself that produces the note when you hammer down with your finger. The closer your finger is to the fret, the more solidly the string hits the fret producing more sound. Also, it just takes building up a little strength in the '4' finger. I can't tell you how often I cursed those scores last year that required playing a 'B' note on the G3 string using the '4' finger when there was a perfectly good 'B' string one could play that took no effort at all. I do know that my '4' finger is much stronger now because of those exercises.

Best regards to all,

Bob G.

[Sabrina Di Biase]

Very nice work Penelope
Of course menuet has a hidden complexity as Robert says, I haven't really got it yet... so, yours is very good
And how are you all?

Lots of greetings to all Delcamp.net members from Italy

[Penelope Phillips-Armand]

Thank you, Sabrina and Bob. Sabrina, I think most of us are probably all right but feeling a little stalled over certain points in this lesson.

To help me form mental images of the chords, I've made a set of flash cards that can be shuffled around in various combinations, and carried around with me so that I can keep studying them in moments that would otherwise be lost. So far I've included eight chords, including those of this lesson and the next. Because the act of making the cards is helpful in itself, I encourage everyone to make his or her own set, but here' s a photograph of mine so far:

jeu d'accords_chord deck.pdf

I've also attempted a transcription of the Krieger Menuet complete with the ornaments as I hear them in Mr. Delcamp's graceful recording. I haven't yet worked out the appropriate fingering, but there are probably certain adepts in this group who, in the next six days or so, will be able to take this much further than I. Have a go!

krieger_menuet-page1.pdf

krieger_menuet-page2.pdf

[Mike Modjeski]

Thank you Penelope. I can't say that I'm one of the adept you speak of, but the ornaments ad quite a bit to the piece and I hope to eventually incorporate them in.

I was determined to stay on top of this lesson and really get this one down, but Mr. Delcamp has thrown a curve ball and all my energy is focused on just getting the basics down.

[Eli McDougal]

Hi everyone. Here are my submissions for the ligados and the improv. Has anyone had any luck with the tarantela?! I always get hung up on the change to D-minor. I've only tried the other chorded piece a few times. Dos villanos, I think it is. I've also been playing the Krieger menuet with ornaments that I've added on my own, though the word "ornament" almost implies something effortless, unconscious. My "ornaments" are very, very conscious and effortful.
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Improv:

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Ligado:

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[Eli McDougal]

Penelope, that's a great idea for the chord cards, by the way. I always get extremely confused when I see whole chords in standard notation. Seems those would help a ton with that.

[Mike Modjeski]

Good job hammering those ligados Eli. You make them sound off pretty well. Interesting improv. as well.

I find my 3rd finger very weak on the ligados but the practice is helping. Can't pound 'em like Eli, but I'll get that posted tomorrow evening.

[Penelope Phillips-Armand]

Eli, I too admire your nice, clear sound.

And since you asked: I don't know how much luck I'm having with the Tarentela, but I've decided to upload my current version if only to be able to leave a few more days for the rest of the lesson. I'm nowhere near the appropriate tempo yet: I've been mainly concerned with bringing out the bass note and the chord progression. Shifting that right thumb back and forth between strings 5 and 6 is enough in itself to keep me fully preoccupied!

[Eli McDougal]

here's the best attempt out of a hundred on the tarantela:

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[Rachid Merabet]

good job to all, Goran,Péneloppe, Mike, Robert, Eli

Eli, your tarentela is very dynamic

Sorry, I 've not had much time to work these last weeks lesson.

[Michael Young]

Hello Everyone!
Great work everyone! Here is my first attempt at this lesson.
Share and Enjoy!
Michael

Liaisons

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Improvization

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Menuet

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Tarentela

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[Robert Goodwin]

Hi Michael,
Well played overall.

-The Minuet is clearly a lesson in concentration. I do think that you could slow it down and consider holding the notes more fully. I have the same problem with staccato notes when trying to push the tempo. It's mostly from lifting the fret fingers too soon in preparation for the next note. It's sort of thinking 'ok, that note's done, let's get the next one'. Once you get used to playing by holding full note duration, it gets easier to speed up the tempo and carry that technique along too.

I do admire how clean your playing is, that is; no detectable buzzes and very few deadened notes. I think a lot of that has to do with how well the player and guitar are suited together. With my smaller hand size, I've had to abandon my favorite guitar for a smaller one for this lesson.

Best regards,

Bob G.

[HÃ¥vard.Bergene]

Goran, your menuet is very good. The second part was super! A bit more legato in the first part will make it perfect. Nice slurs
Bob, Mike, Eli, Penelope, Michael: Good start.
Eli: Good slurs and good rhythm on the Tarentela!
Penelope: Agree on the focus on the damping with the p on the Tarentela.

Here are my recordings of the slurs, improv on DEGABC, Menuet and Tarentela.

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[Rachid Merabet]

Congratulations to all! Here are two versions of the minuet Krieger with and without ornaments
Thank you for listening!

Krieger avec ornements.mp3

krieger sans ornements.mp3

[ShaneSingleton]

Hello all,

Between taking D01 and D02, all my travel, and the transition to spring (and thus kayak season), I have been scrambling to catch up with you all. So I'm basically going to be that kid we all hated... The one who scrambles to turn the entire semester's work into the professor at the last possible moment. I kind of feel bad for not keeping up on the current conversations and really wish I had discovered this forum back in September.

I just spent a good deal of time power-watching a great number of your videos for the d02 lessons and I have noticed something. Many of you are in agreement that this lesson's pieces are in some ways personal struggles with things like technique, rhythm, fret buzz, small hands, managing multiple voices in a piece, etc. What I have noticed from watching so many of your earlier recordings and working my way through to current ones in one sitting is that everyone's more recent recordings on the more difficult repertoire sound much better than their earlier, easier pieces. I'm impressed with everyone's personal progress! Better tone, less fret buzz, smoother rhthms, and all on more difficult material. Everyone who has stuck with it this far is so much improved. Bravo!

So, just saying... It's been really great trying to catch up to you all. I hope to have my lesson 5 recordings posted later this week. At my rate, Lesson 8 probably won't be posted until mid May...