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what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby Masjedi » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:28 am

Hi everyone.
I`m going to play asturias.
problem is...I find many version of asturias,albeniz.

what is the best arrangement for asturias?

tnx.
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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby mparton » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:31 am

Masjedi wrote:Hi everyone.
I`m going to play asturias.
problem is...I find many version of asturias,albeniz.

what is the best arrangement for asturias?

tnx.


Before you choose, please read http://www.stanleyyates.com/articles/albeniz/leyenda.html

Stanley Yates once offered his transcription for free, but it does not seem to be there any more.

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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby Cary W » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:55 pm

There is a good arrangement here on Delcamp.

The Segovia arrangement is familiar to many, but does have critics too...

Take the time to read the Yates article for some insight. :wink:
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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby Masjedi » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:57 pm

mparton wrote:
Masjedi wrote:Hi everyone.
I`m going to play asturias.
problem is...I find many version of asturias,albeniz.

what is the best arrangement for asturias?

tnx.


Before you choose, please read http://www.stanleyyates.com/articles/albeniz/leyenda.html

Stanley Yates once offered his transcription for free, but it does not seem to be there any more.

Matti P.


TNX a lot! it was amazing! but yet...I dont know the best version...
and also,I live in iran,I cant buy anything online...
hope to find a free arr.
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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby Masjedi » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:07 pm

Cary W wrote:There is a good arrangement here on Delcamp.

The Segovia arrangement is familiar to many, but does have critics too...

Take the time to read the Yates article for some insight. :wink:


Stanley Yates notes was great. TNX.
the version on delcamp...is it good? is it better than segovia or other versions?
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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby DanielMcPherson » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:16 pm

mparton wrote:Stanley Yates once offered his transcription for free, but it does not seem to be there any more.


Yates' version is still there. His link is just mispelled. Try: http://www.stanleyyates.com/scores/leyenda.pdf

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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby lagartija » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:09 pm

If you can, find a copy of the piano version. Listen to the piece played on piano. Look at as many transcriptions for guitar as you can find and study them. Find out what each transcriber did to adapt to our instrument and when you finally find "the best" solution, you may find that you are using parts from a few transcriptions.

Are you near a large city with a good library? Or near a conservatory that might have a library? If so, you may be able to look at many different transcriptions.
Listen to Alicia de Laroche play the piece. You might develop some opinions on which is the "best" after listening carefully to the piece played on piano.
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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby mparton » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:16 pm

DanielMcPherson wrote:
mparton wrote:Stanley Yates once offered his transcription for free, but it does not seem to be there any more.


Yates' version is still there. His link is just mispelled. Try: http://www.stanleyyates.com/scores/leyenda.pdf

Daniel


Excellent!

As to Masjedi's question about the best arrangement, I am in no position to judge. But I remember that maestro Angelo Gilardino once remarked in some forum that if one must play the Leyenda/Asturias on the guitar, then one should use the Yates transcription, as it is definitely the best.

So, Masjedi, it appears that there you have it!

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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby mparton » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:23 pm

mparton wrote:... But I remember that maestro Angelo Gilardino once remarked in some forum that if one must play the Leyenda/Asturias on the guitar, then one should use the Yates transcription, as it is definitely the best.


The exact Gilardino quote from rec.music.classical.guitar is below. Seems that I did not remember it quite right.

"There are only two transcriptions of Asturias. The historical one, made by Andrés Segovia, and copied, with a few unconsequent changes in details, by a lot of other transcribers, and Stanley Yates's one. Stanley took his own way, working on the original as closely, carefully and creatively as nobody else did before him. I think his Asturias is far the best and I suggest it to all my students who aim to deal with the piece."

And for those to whom the name Angelo Gilardino may not be familiar: he is one of the greats on contemporary guitar scene.

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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby Vlad Kosulin » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:00 pm

You might want to read the following article by Matanya Ophee which also includes Severino GarcĂ­a Fortea and Domingo Prat transcriptions:
http://www.guitarandluteissues.com/asturias/asturias.html
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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby Ciro Marzio » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:35 am

Is there any tab for the Yates transcription?
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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby Ciro Marzio » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:42 am

What about the Gmin version by Antonio De Innocentis?
I have listened to him on youtube and sounded just right to me...
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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby Masjedi » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:32 pm

Vlad Kosulin wrote:You might want to read the following article by Matanya Ophee which also includes Severino GarcĂ­a Fortea and Domingo Prat transcriptions:
http://www.guitarandluteissues.com/asturias/asturias.html


tnx a lot.
I`m still working on it...need time to compare it with others.
tnx again.
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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby Masjedi » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:36 pm

DanielMcPherson wrote:
mparton wrote:Stanley Yates once offered his transcription for free, but it does not seem to be there any more.


Yates' version is still there. His link is just mispelled. Try: http://www.stanleyyates.com/scores/leyenda.pdf

Daniel


tnx alot daniel.
I`m in iran,so I dont have much access to the libraries or sth like amazon...
I red that article...and now I`m playing his arr.
but I think in some ways...the old arr. sound more like "Romantic" period...I`ll tell you my final opinion when I`m done.
tnx again.
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Re: what is the best arrangement for asturias?

Postby AlexRaven » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:01 am

I think Yates closer to Albeniz original but C/Bflat chord in his interpretation does not sound good for me. His chord doesn't correspond to original Albeniz chord (it is an inversion). I try to play the original chord by decreasing one octave down with additional D# of 6th string and it seems that is much better corresponds to original. So my chord is (1th open, 2th 1 fret, 3th open, 4th 2fret, 5th 1fret, 6th 2fret).
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