HHNLim wrote:If these kids can, so can you!
I deeply feel that smaller handed people need to stand up and start a movement to end the bigotry against smaller hand size once and for all. This will be accomplished by mercilessly zinging the big handed until they unconditionally surrender. The large handed say their technique improves with going to a larger nut or larger scale. Why aren't there pundits like Aaron ready to apply HHNLim's logic to take them to task for not having the correct technique that would allow them to play on a standard size guitar? Didn't Segovia play on a larger scale guitar? Yes he wanted luthiers to make louder guitars but he also wanted the larger scale because it suited him personally.Aaron wrote:I agree. I've seen that link before. Good technique overcomes whatever circumstances. Consider ukelele or mandolin played by folks with big hands...
Oh, I totally agree with you there. The scale is relative.Aaron wrote:Consider ukelele or mandolin played by folks with big hands...
We all have different hands. Some of us have hands as small as those of small children. My 11 year old daughter can stretch further from her pinky to index finger than I can (140 mm).JQ. wrote:It always cracks me up to see people saying they need a smaller scale guitar because of their "smaller" adult hands when small children are apparently able to play full-sized guitars.
I thought discussion was about width of the neck not length of it ...It looks like it is a different subject for me. But just for fun I measured my pinky to index stretch - 200 mm easy... and yet I like guitar necks 50mm wide more than 55 mm etc. 50-49 mm is ideal to me and I don't understand all these calculations and arguments about large hands equal wide necks...tree-hugger wrote:We all have different hands. Some of us have hands as small as those of small children. My 11 year old daughter can stretch further from her pinky to index finger than I can (140 mm).JQ. wrote:It always cracks me up to see people saying they need a smaller scale guitar because of their "smaller" adult hands when small children are apparently able to play full-sized guitars.
Those small children will have longer fingers and a greater span next year, and those amazing stretches won't be so amazing any longer. Adults with small fingers have to suffer those same stretches, and the consequences of making them, for the rest of their lives.
In another thread on this sub-forum people are asked to give various hand measurements, including the one I have given above. The average so far for the pinky to index stretch is 171.5 mm. Assuming this is an okay measurement for someone playing a 650 mm length scale, and scaling by the ratio of 140/171.5 gives a scale length of 531 mm. Alternatively, scaling up by the inverse of this ratio converts the scale length I prefer, 630 mm, up to 771 mm.
These numbers should give some idea of just how much more difficult it is for small handed adult guitarists, who don't have the flexibility of small children, to play a normal scale length guitar. Based on the figures above, even a 630 mm scale length is well oversize for someone like myself when compared to an adult with a more average hand size. So before you start cracking up about small handed adults not wanting to play a 650 mm guitar, imagine how comfortable you would be playing for an hour or two each day on a guitar of 770 mm scale length or longer.
Just to be clear Michael, are yo suggesting that a person with small hand should go for the short scale length and a bit narrower neck?Michael.N. wrote:There is absolutely no reason why anyone with small, slim fingers should play with a wide Neck. It makes absolutely no logical sense. This combined with a shorter string length make things a little easier for players with small hands.