Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

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Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby glassynails » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:40 pm

I'd say Bream does, but I think Yamashita may also.
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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby hemiphractus » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:14 am

Depends on what you mean by bad posture. There is a trade off between ergonomics as it relates to right and left hand position, guitar stability and healthy postural (spine, shoulder, hip) alignment. So... which is the worst posture - the one that strains the hands/wrists/arms, or the one that deforms the spine and causes hip joint pain? Too, is it necessarily bad if it just looks awful but is comfortable for the artist?

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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby Cary W » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:36 am

My back hurts just watching a player like Segovia or Christopher Parkening. :?
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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby Odie » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:52 pm

Ana Vidovic I think - I dot know how she can contort the spine and neck so much for extended periods of time....

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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby FDCP294 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:33 am

Cary W wrote:My back hurts just watching a player like Segovia or Christopher Parkening. :?


Same here, especially Parkening! :shock:

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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby kurt guitar » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:44 am

glassynails wrote:I'd say Bream does, but I think Yamashita may also.


Yamashita certainly moves around a lot, bobbing and weaving.

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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby ronjazz » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:08 pm

Angus Young of AC-DC
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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby Sean Eric Howard » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:29 am

Odie wrote:Ana Vidovic I think - I dot know how she can contort the spine and neck so much for extended periods of time....


She looks pretty flexible, though.
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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby Nick Payne » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:42 am

Ricardo Gallen's position doesn't look very ergonomic (this is a really excellent video, BTW):


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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby 60moo » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:13 am

ronjazz wrote:Angus Young of AC-DC

[ :roll: I seriously hope he doesn't end up down the track with brain damage. All that violent head shaking over time cannot possibly do any good.]

On CG, I don't think any of the pro's have a posture really detrimental to their long-term health. They've spent tens of thousands of hours getting to where they are, so wouldn't you think somewhere along the line early on their bodies would have been telling them if something was wrong??

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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby TsarL » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:03 am

Nick Payne wrote:Ricardo Gallen's position doesn't look very ergonomic (this is a really excellent video, BTW):



Yes, really an excellent video!

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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby Praeludium » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:18 am

60moo wrote:
ronjazz wrote:Angus Young of AC-DC

[ :roll: I seriously hope he doesn't end up down the track with brain damage. All that violent head shaking over time cannot possibly do any good.]

On CG, I don't think any of the pro's have a posture really detrimental to their long-term health. They've spent tens of thousands of hours getting to where they are, so wouldn't you think somewhere along the line early on their bodies would have been telling them if something was wrong??


We don't know how to listen to our body, so that's perfectly possible (:
There are so may people (including me) who live with a "deformed" and unhealthy body, and we often think we're fine.

It seems normal for many (most ?) of the musician to feel pain but to play though it. With time you don't even feel it anymore, it seems normal.
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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby Bart » Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:17 pm

I wouldn't say Bream has a very bad posture. (Does anyone have heard something of Bream recentely? He seems to have totally disappeared from the earth :) )

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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby robin loops » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:14 pm

I think Bream retired...
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Re: Which Pro guitarist has the worst posture?

Postby Erik Zurcher » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:48 pm

I can't watch Julian Bream playing, because he seems to hold his breath too long. But if I close my eyes, I hear only beautiful music. What a great musician! He is my favourite, my benchmark.
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