US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Bodhi » Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:49 pm

Wishing you all the best, and we must all say to you that the magic is in your hands not just the guitars. I am sure that, having seen and heard you play, you will make any guitar sound incredible!
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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Debussychopin » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:20 pm

I hope youre not just relegated to playing a cordoba c5 (you probably can make it still sround magnificent) after selling off everything
... Best of luck to you.
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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Tavi Jinariu » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:04 pm

Debussychopin wrote:I hope youre not just relegated to playing a cordoba c5 (you probably can make it still sround magnificent) after selling off everything.
No way I am selling everything. There are some guitars that are lifetime keepers. Those are not going anywhere :)
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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Bodhi » Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:27 am

Hi Tavi your response got me more curious! What are the favourite lifetime keeper guitars you have?
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Frederico Sheppard Barrios "Morant" 2010 Spruce
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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by cliffbryant » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:49 pm

Bodhi wrote:Hi Tavi your response got me more curious! What are the favourite lifetime keeper guitars you have?

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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Tavi Jinariu » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:38 pm

Bodhi wrote:Hi Tavi your response got me more curious! What are the favourite lifetime keeper guitars you have?
Hmm..., someone once told me that one should never divulge how much money, what and how many guitars or guns one may have have. I think that was good advice but suffice it to say that I keep mostly vintage guitars and a few newer guitars that were made for me. I am a sucker for Ramirez guitars and always fall for them and end up buying one whenever I find a great one.
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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Debussychopin » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:28 am

If you're ever in the irvine area pm me there is Tomo Coffee that I frequent great cafe ill buy you a beverage in exchange for answers to more questions I have for you :)


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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Bodhi » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:19 pm

Fully understand your response Tavi Sir! I simply thought we would all learn a lot from what you would consider a great guitar in terms of what you look for, under what circumstances you prefer spruce vs cedar, whether you value a 20th fret etc. I presume given your love of Ramirez you prefer solid top guitars to double tops? Is my assumption correct or are there any double top guitars you admire?
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Loriente "Clarita" 2004 Spruce
Frederico Sheppard Barrios "Morant" 2010 Spruce
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Yulong Guo "Philharmonic" Double Top 2016 #01 Cedar French Polish

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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Tavi Jinariu » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:32 pm

Bodhi wrote: I presume given your love of Ramirez you prefer solid top guitars to double tops? Is my assumption correct or are there any double top guitars you admire?
Thank you
Indeed, I like solid top guitars that are more traditional in sound. There are some double top guitars that are quite nice as well. About 10 years I played a lovely Enric Monrad double top guitar that was memorable. This particular Ramirez Auditorio that I put up for sale is also an incredible instrument that responds like a traditional guitar only with greater volume and projection. The rest of the double top, at least the ones I played, sound a bit more generic than I would like.
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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Joe Medina » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:58 am

Tavi, which is your favorite guitar of all time to play? Have you ever played a Romanillos guitar?

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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Tavi Jinariu » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:16 pm

Joe Medina wrote:Tavi, which is your favorite guitar of all time to play? Have you ever played a Romanillos guitar?
Hi Joe, the best guitar I have played and enjoy playing is a 1963 Ramirez MT. Last year I also played a 1986 Hauser guitar that was stunning. A few days ago I recorded a 1888 Torres that was charming. Some of the newer makers whose guitars I have enjoyed playing are Reynoso, Perelman, Malapanis, Monrad, Oberg and others. In the midst of all these expensive guitars, I enjoyed playing the Cordoba Torres model and even some of the factory made Cordoba guitars. Takamine C136 made in the 70s are pretty impressive guitars that won't break the bank. I have not yet played a Romanillos although I have enjoyed their sound on Bream and Antigoni Goni's recordings. Send me one if you have one extra that is just laying around :) All this to say that there is a lot of guitar snobbery out there and expensive guitars don't necessarily mean better guitars. As an example, a couple of days ago I played an early 20th century guitar in the price range of 20k that was, for lack of a better word, awful; it's modern counterpart made in Mexico is far, far better of an instrument.
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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by moonslammer » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:55 pm

i sent you a quick email with a propsal. Kenny

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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Tavi Jinariu » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:30 pm

moonslammer wrote:i sent you a quick email with a propsal. Kenny
Hi Kenny,
Send the message again as it did not come through.
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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Renee's Dad » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:38 pm

Tavi Jinariu wrote:. . . In the midst of all these expensive guitars, I enjoyed playing the Cordoba Torres model and even some of the factory made Cordoba guitars. . .
I'm looking for a new (or new to me) upgrade for my old Yamaha, and it's posts like this that have me seriously considering Cordoba - either a C10 (probably spruce), or perhaps even a MS Torres, Hauser, or Esteso. Pity me my indecision...

As soon as I win the lottery, though - this Auditorio is mine!
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Re: US $15000 Jose Ramirez 1A Auditorio Double Top 2013, Los Angeles, CA

Post by Kintla » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:13 pm

"There is a lot of guitar snobbery out there". Exactly! I've gone through this myself, finally realizing that an expensive luthier built guitar is not a necessity for playing well. Some of the Yamaha's are actually fairly good, have never played any of the Cordoba's however. Some luthier built guitars are so sensitive that they can be a detriment to one's playing if the technique isn't there. One of my luthier built guitar's I got about 12 years ago, when my technique was not up to the level demanded by the guitar. It has been a long love/hate relationship that I just recently am starting to feel good about. But we each follow our own path. Thanks.

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