1998 Ramirez 1a (spruce): sold

Re: 1998 Ramirez 1a (spruce) for sale -- $3700

Postby Gil_Wade » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:46 pm

flintsghost wrote:
riffmeister wrote:Rick, ditto what tocapuro said. 8)

And it's nice to see that flintsghost's inaccurate statements were set straight.


Sorry to disappoint, but my statement was not inaccurate. The majority of Ramirez 1A's made to date are indeed 664 mm scales. The 650 is relatively rare and I merely suggested that he measure it to be certain. His link didn't work for me and apparently for others also so I could not see the label. I suggested also that if it was indeed a 650 it may be worth considerably more. Jerry Roberts in Nashville has a similar guitar in similar condition in a 650mm scale for sale as this is posted and is asking $6400 for it. Much more than a similar 664mm would bring. So apparently I was correct. You can put any spin on it you want, but I was merely suggesting that he might realize more than his asking price if he was correct and since in bad economic times which Mr Burns is apparently having, a higher sale price would be beneficial to him, he might be asking too low a price. Of course a person is free to ask as little as he wishes regardless of the wisdom of doing so. You apparently didn't think the price was low so you might be one who is happy to take advantage of a less fortunate fellow. I don't happen to be one of those myself.


Depends on what you mean by "the majority". Prior to 1986 664 was the Ramirez standard and you could only get a 650 by special order. There was enough demand for the 650 that Jose Ramirez III created the model C86 in 1986. Somewhere in the 90's the majority of demand swung from 664 to 650...partly due to heavy marketing by the current Ramirez distributer. Now, unless you buy an older used guitar, you can only get a 664 from Ramirez by special order. Though they still have a great reputation, Ramirez's as a whole seem to have fallen out of popularity with the general public, but the older long-scale guitars have really been bad-mouthed so much that few of us even attempt to use them anymore. Some of us believe that it is a better guitar. There is a long scale 2A on the popular bid site for $4,000 which to me is a better deal than this 650...though this is a really good price for any Ramirez...and you don't see many spruce tops.
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Re: 1998 Ramirez 1a (spruce) for sale -- $3700

Postby rburns » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:06 am

In case there was some misunderstanding in an earlier post, I am willing to pay for shipping and insurance if the buyer lives in the lower 48 U.S., but returns would require that the seller pays shipping and insurance. Right now, there is a local student wanting to upgrade from his Ramirez 4E to this one, so he would get it for less. Anyone else willing to come to Northeast Arkansas (Jonesboro, about an hour's drive from Memphis), would also receive a discount ($3500).

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Rick
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Re: 1998 Ramirez 1a (spruce) for sale -- $3700

Postby rburns » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:10 pm

Sale pending.
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Re: 1998 Ramirez 1a (spruce): sold

Postby rburns » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:36 am

Sold.
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