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Re: "Pre-owned"

Post by lagartija » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:34 am

:idea: ....a guitar that has been previously trained by an expert player!
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Re: "Pre-owned"

Post by BellyDoc » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:22 am

zavaletas wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:22 am
This could be fun. What would you propose as a substitute for pre-owned, used, pre-loved (which does sound nasty), how about my ex-, an old ax looking to play new tunes....
How about an unemotional statement about the number of previous owners?

Guitar for sale: one previous owner/player, excellent condition...
Guitar for sale: two previous owners/players, both students, good condition, no dings, some wear on finish...
Guitar for sale: notable luthier, numerous previous owners/collectors (partial list available upon serious request), playable condition, no modern repair-work identified...
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Re: "Pre-owned"

Post by jayjayrose » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:38 pm

Personally, I'd rather buy a "used" guitar than a new one. A new one might be a "bespoke" instrument, i.e., made to order, and then you don't know what it is like until you've bought it. On the other hand, the market is full of fabulous guitars that have been well cared for, broken in, and loved. Just because an instrument is "used" doesn't mean it is rejected. People have many reasons for selling their wares. And used guitars have a story that may be important to some folks. I like a little piece of history.

And then there is the possibility of saving some money by getting a used guitar. Not a sure thing, but always possible.
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Re: "Pre-owned"

Post by Genious » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:01 am

jayjayrose wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:38 pm
Personally, I'd rather buy a "used" guitar than a new one.

And then there is the possibility of saving some money by getting a used guitar. Not a sure thing, but always possible.
I so agree. I look for used before anything new - and the fact that the price will likely be cheaper rarely enters into it. I sound a little new-agey, but the limited number of new guitars I've had felt lifeless - lacking a certain energy.
And any time I used to be in other cities I would seek out the pawn and hock shops (before the internet ruined them with e - b a y, craigslist, etc.) and not bother with the actual music stores that sold new stuff.

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Re: "Pre-owned"

Post by Wuuthrad » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:22 am

Second hand, or even pre-owned :shock: sound much better than used. :D

Who wants to play a used guitar? Sounds gross... lol...rhymes with used car!

(btw I own pre-owned classical guitars- already broken in and aged a bit, with a smattering of something else...)

I suppose well kept or well maintained is a pre-requisite for pre-owned, if you get my meaning.

But well used? Eww

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Re: "Pre-owned"

Post by mannybu » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:54 pm

It seems that all of you contributors are ready for, at least, a part time career on Madison Avenue. And there is a subtle message sent in the words in the ads, and some of them make some sense. For example, in the annual Winter Coat Drive in NYC, the ad reads something like: Donate your gently used coats...," obviously in hope we do not clog their collection boxes with garbage.

When purchasing other than brand new equipment from large sellers, we can gauge the condition of the item by the asking price of the item 'as is' and comparing it to the price brand new. I have noticed a new wrinkle--the Open Box. This is an item purchased new, but returned during the grace period, and the item could have gone through a rough testing period before being returned; the difference in price will indicate the degree of damage sustained in that process.

In any case, language is living thing, and it is constantly changing. In the meantime, let's appreciate the effort, even if the results make our heads shake in disbelief.

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