David_Norton wrote:I tend to agree with charles.patrick on much of this, or at least understand where he is coming from. There was a recording posted here recently of a well-known concert piece which was -- by any reasonable objective standard -- just dreadful. Yet it garnered the same type of "hey that was wonderful, thank you so much for sharing this!" reaction from members and moderators alike that also is given to recordings which really ARE top-drawer.
It seems there's been a real effort put forth lately to intentionally make people feel good about themselves here, as if this is some sort of group therapy forum set up in the guise of a CG forum. While there is usually no reason to be outright nasty, there really should be a higher degree of discernment, particularly from those in leadership/moderator roles. A so-so player is going to get all the wrong impressions from receiving high praise for mediocre results, though I can understand praising the EFFORT may be of more value than praising the OUTCOME. But if the same complimentary words are used for the mediocre work, then when these same words are given in response to another player's genuinely masterful achievements the impact is perforce lessened.
I'd far rather hear a 4-note piece played well, in proper rhythm and with proper phrasing, than hear a more difficult piece played poorly. Too many of us (yes, I said "US") are overambitious and attempt to perform or record things which are a notch or two or seven beyond our actual skill-set. We all know the old quote about how a man's reach should exceed his grasp, but that should be the exception and not the daily routine.
I can see where you are coming from and where previous posts are coming from. But, I believe that classical guitar has enough room in its repertoire to allow for all kinds of music. Further, no one is forcing anyone to watch any videos or listen to anything they think is below them. I would rather people point out a good attempt than nit-pick at unreasonable details endlessly (which also happens here). But, good constructive criticism can be appreciated as long as it's tasteful and not just trying to make someone in the image of what they think the piece should be like. But, you tend to encourage people more through praise than through rabid criticisms and telling them to give up on any hard pieces and go back to Twinkle twinkle. In fact, we expand our boundaries through trying harder pieces, not through perfecting quarter notes in the key of "x".
To a previous point: If tab works, why not use it? I read both tab and standard notation. It just depends on my mood and how well I want to learn any specific song. If I just want a sense of it, tab is quicker. If I really want to learn a song, I go to the notation. If tab brings more fans, who cares what people read? Do you really care how they get the caramel inside a Nestle Caramilk? Or, would you rather just enjoy the treat for what it is? Who cares how people learn the song, just let us hear it! Loud and proud! Musicians tend to get stuffy and think that their brand of music is the best. However, considering that so many different brands exist, someone must love each type. The argument that we must purify classical guitar of its pop filth (or any type of other filth) is rather stretching the boundaries of sensibility. Considering that on its own, the guitar is a newer instrument as some go, it too can be considered filth by some (and is considered so in certain fields). Lute players all over the world are crying for their songs back from the evil inbreed called the guitar! (Maybe even an old fashion guitar and guitar transcription burning will do the trick!)
Anyways, I see nothing wrong with people asking questions or responding to performances, or even to praising someone who might not be as worthy as others! In fact, most people who are proficient know it and need less praise and encouragement than a beginner who thinks about quitting guitar needs. But, It's all in good fun for the enjoyment of the guitar. If this forum is about something else, perhaps I am in the wrong place?! I doubt it! I enjoy my time on here. Everyone should learn to relax.