Chopin, Frédéric - op.28/07 (arr. Tárrega) - Gut Strings/No Nails

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Chopin, Frédéric - op.28/07 (arr. Tárrega) - Gut Strings/No Nails

Post by tateharmann » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:41 am

So.. one of the things I wanted to do before the current set of gut trebles on my guitar dies was to record some Chopin. I've got my eye on prelude number 4 from op. 28 as well but I'm open to suggestions for the arranger because I find the Tárrega one a bit odd. Anyways, on this prelude I've omitted most of the slides/glissandos as I thought maybe it would sound more pianistic that way...but it sounds good with them too.
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Re: Chopin, Frédéric - op.28/07 (arr. Tárrega) - Gut Strings/No Nails

Post by cliffbryant » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:05 pm

Ah, such a beautiful sound...

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Re: Chopin, Frédéric - op.28/07 (arr. Tárrega) - Gut Strings/No Nails

Post by tateharmann » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:44 pm

Thank you!
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Re: Chopin, Frédéric - op.28/07 (arr. Tárrega) - Gut Strings/No Nails

Post by RobMacKillop » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:58 pm

Beautiful sound, of course, as you always have, but for the love of all that is good in the world, restore the glissandi!! :-) Tárrega's arrangement is sublime! His distribution of the notes over the fretboard really works beautifully. I ask you, my friend, to reconsider! :-)

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Re: Chopin, Frédéric - op.28/07 (arr. Tárrega) - Gut Strings/No Nails

Post by tateharmann » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:27 pm

RobMacKillop wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:58 pm
Beautiful sound, of course, as you always have, but for the love of all that is good in the world, restore the glissandi!! :-) Tárrega's arrangement is sublime! His distribution of the notes over the fretboard really works beautifully. I ask you, my friend, to reconsider! :-)
NEVER!!! haha - just kidding, of course I will reconsider it.

I was mostly modeling my version after my favorite version here:



He plays NONE of the slides - and that sounds a lot like the piano piece that I'm used to (I play piano too).

But, alas, this is not a piano...it's a guitar :)
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Post by RobMacKillop » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:45 pm

Uggh..shudder... haha.

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Post by tateharmann » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:49 pm

Hehe :)

Is there a version with the glissandi in tact that you like? I'm hard pressed to find one :/
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Post by RobMacKillop » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:12 pm

No. Not that I know of, sadly. I might get around to it some day. But you should give it a try.

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Post by tateharmann » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:04 am

Aha! I did try while I was working up the piece. While it did sound good...I still preferred omitting the slides. I did a quick search on YT and the vast number of recordings seem to omit them - even Segovia's. I will keep searching to find one that I like ;)
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Post by tateharmann » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:06 am

RobMacKillop wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:12 pm
No. Not that I know of, sadly. I might get around to it some day. But you should give it a try.
Ok I searched and searched on YouTube and found only 4 performances with the slides. Of those 4 this is the one I like most. It's a bit fast to me but the phrasing and articulation are very good:

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Post by RobMacKillop » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:30 am

That's quite nice, maybe too much nail for my liking. As for the tempo, I wonder what direction Chopin gave? I've heard quite a few pianists play it at this tempo, whereas guitarists - including myself - tend to take it much slower. But it's so short, the slower we play it the longer we can indulge in it :-) I used to repeat it :-) Anyway, you play it beautifully, with or without slides.

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Post by John Jay » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:14 pm

Very beautiful recording! Thank you for posting it.

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Post by tateharmann » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:33 pm

RobMacKillop wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:30 am
That's quite nice, maybe too much nail for my liking. As for the tempo, I wonder what direction Chopin gave? I've heard quite a few pianists play it at this tempo, whereas guitarists - including myself - tend to take it much slower. But it's so short, the slower we play it the longer we can indulge in it :-) I used to repeat it :-) Anyway, you play it beautifully, with or without slides.
Well - it's marked andantino so I think a lilting/lively version would be appropriate. I like it at more of an andante though :)

I will play around with those slides and maybe do another recording.

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Re: Chopin, Frédéric - op.28/07 (arr. Tárrega) - Gut Strings/No Nails

Post by tateharmann » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:34 pm

John Jay wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:14 pm
Very beautiful recording! Thank you for posting it.
Thanks!
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Re: Chopin, Frédéric - op.28/07 (arr. Tárrega) - Gut Strings/No Nails

Post by Monteverde » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:37 pm

Lovely playing, Tate!

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Jon

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