Buying a New Classical Guitar

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by Michael.N. » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:55 pm

msil63 wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:23 am
A Canadian luthier refered Christian to me and I touched based with him. However, I have not played one of his guitars. My issue with buying a guitar from Christian is that his instruments may be just great, but should I decide to resell it I don’t think I’ll be able get any amount that will come close to what I’d pay for.
That applies to virtually every living luthier. If you want to minimise the risk you will have to buy a used guitar, even then you may still lose money on it although almost certainly less than the amount you would lose if buying a new guitar. At the end of the day the value of a guitar is in the playing and the pleasure it gives to the person playing it. If you are good enough it might give pleasure to others as well.
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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by msil63 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:39 am

Hi Kimba,

Alright and thanks.

Sincerely,
M

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by John Ray » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:05 am

I agree completely with Michael's comments. It is sad but true that, like cars, guitars depreciate as soon as you drive them off the lot.

I often reccommend to players that they buy from a shop because they can try out so many different instruments and get some professional advice. However, in the case of 2nd hand, the shops can't afford to sell as cheaply as a private individual so they might be out of the question for you.
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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by caneti3 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:44 am

Miguel, IMHO a 2nd hand guitar is the best option for sure!
Good luck

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by richtm » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:26 am

Agreed - in fact only my Andreas Kirmse is a new one. There are no used Kirmse guitars on the market. The others I all bought used and I am happy with them since years. As mentioned above to better understand sound! and playability! You should once had the instrument played before you buy it. I would say not neccessarily the particular instrument, but the model (e.g. Bernabe Especial). This is difficult, but there are some big sellers (mentioned above, for Germany: Siccas Guitars in Karlsruhe, Wegner in Cologne,..). Craftsmanship for some colleagues is also a factor...
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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by msil63 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:14 pm

Hi all,
Thanks for the advice and support.
After all this “quest for a classical guitar”, many of you may feel disappointed but it looks as if my entre in classical guitar will be through a simple Kremona, model Solea. Plays beautifully, the sound is very good and depreciation will not be huge because it is not a very expensive instrument.
No luthiers involved until I start filling halls with my recitals... :))
Again, thank you all for helping me.
Sincerely,
Miguel

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by CT20 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:07 pm

Congratulations! That's a very adequate first instrument...and with money available for lessons.

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by Lovemyguitar » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:41 pm

msil63 wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:14 pm
...After all this “quest for a classical guitar”, many of you may feel disappointed but it looks as if my entre in classical guitar will be through a simple Kremona, model Solea. Plays beautifully, the sound is very good ...
Excellent choice, and it is a guitar that you can grow into as you learn, since it is well above an entry-level instrument. Enjoy!

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by msil63 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:08 pm

Thanks to both comments on my Solea! Done!

Sincerely
M

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by Scott Phillips » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:55 pm

My friend used to be a Kremona dealer and he had these and, that is a very good 1st classical guitar. There won’t be the need for an upgrade for a long time and, as previously suggested, money left over for lessons.

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by kimba » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:09 pm

Excelent choise!!!! Very nice guitar to learn!! Enjoy!!

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by Adam » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:05 pm

I've played Kremonas and thought they sounded great, if their neck profile works for you. Definitely better (to me) than the Cordobas I've played.

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by eno » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:54 am

Yes, Kremonas are very good compared to many other brands in in this price range. Kremona was actually my first guitar some 50 yrs ago...
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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by joachim33 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:36 am

msil63 wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:33 am
Adam, I’ll be traveling to NYC tomorrow. Any place in Brooklyn or Manhattan worth visiting for classical guitars?
You need to get clued on protected species and CITIES. Most guitars, starting from 500€ use wood that is covered by protected species legislation. There are exceptions, but this seems not the norm.

I understand you are in Portugal. If you buy within the EU, permits are easy - in many cases a sales receipt from before 2017 is all that is needed. If you buy in the US and import into the EU you need permits. I know of a German store that does not ship to Switzerland any longer because of this. Ilegal Imports will carry a lower resale value. I would just walk out on you.

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Edit: I see after reading on that you got a guitar. I leave this comment for reference.

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Re: Buying a New Classical Guitar

Post by Arkheospruce » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:10 pm

Hi miguel. I advice Antonio Picado Concert model (C1). Very high quality woods and handcrafting for this price.. Rounded powerful and sweet sound. Highly recommended. Good luck!

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