1982 Ramirez 1a

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1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by Buster » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:22 pm

Would £3500 be a reasonable price for a Ramirez 1a in good condition from 1982 ?

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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by souldier » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:25 pm

Are you buying or selling?
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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by Buster » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:26 pm

Does that affect the price ?

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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by dta721 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:41 pm

There was a 1982 Ramirez 1A S/N 16002 sold in a pro shop (12 Fret) in Toronto. List price was CAD $4199, not sure exactly selling price nor when. Another 1980 Ramirez 1A at the same shop sold for about CAD $5K. That said, a 1995 Ramirez 1A Professional is on consignment for CAD $7950. Not sure if this helps :)

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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by Buster » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:52 pm

Thanks, it does help.

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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by simonm » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:08 pm

A number have been sold here on the forum. Here is the most recent - a few months ago - which sold very quickly.

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Price depends on age with the 80's for some reason going for less that the 70's. Recent models are much more. Prices on the forum, especially for guitars that sell quickly here, are likely quite a bit less than on professional sales platforms.

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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by Buster » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:10 am

Thanks

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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by David Conti » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:01 pm

Hi Buster,
I have a 74 Ramirez cedar top w/ Brazilian rosewood that is a decent example. I value it around $3500.00- $4500.00 USD.
The problem you will find is that these are 664 scale guitars and the market is going to 640 or 650 guitars.
I have taken quite a few commissions for 640 and under guitars but never for anything above 650.
Also, they don't come with any relief in the neck with many having very high action. Richard Brune does a fretboard retrofit that makes these guitars play very well but it is a bit pricey.
Now the sound, IMO a Cervantes concert Rodriguez sounds,plays and is an overall better guitar than my Ramirez. And the master series Cervantes is miles better in sound, playability and construction.
By the time mine was being made (74) they were starting to really apply the heavy polyurethane finish. But they do have the Ramirez name which for some reason carries lots of weight with many people still.

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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by Buster » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:37 pm

Thanks, very helpful.

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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by beanctr » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:19 pm

$3,500 is a fair price. R
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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by zavaletas » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:58 pm

About 20,000 1a guitars were made under Jose Ramirez III, so prices are competitive. A price 3,500 pounds is within the expected retail range, but one would expect it to be in excellent condition at this price.
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Re: 1982 Ramirez 1a

Post by Buster » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:39 pm

zavaletas wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:58 pm
About 20,000 1a guitars were made under Jose Ramirez III, so prices are competitive. A price 3,500 pounds is within the expected retail range, but one would expect it to be in excellent condition at this price.
Thanks for the info, turned out not to be in very good condition!
I see you sell Bernabe guitars, can you tell me how different the m15 and 20 are ? Would be a big help

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