Will restoring a vintage guitar to bring it back to its former glory diminish it's value?

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Fredinbroome
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Will restoring a vintage guitar to bring it back to its former glory diminish it's value?

Post by Fredinbroome » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:36 am

Hi there,

I own a rare vintage classical guitar crafted by the late Western Australian luthier, Andries de Jager from Perth. I believe from my research that it may be one of his more expensive models. Although in great nick for a 48YO guitar, it's not been treated with the respect it should have been unfortunately. I'd love to have it restored to it's former glory one day but alas Mr de Jager is no longer with us and so it would have to be another luthier who would undertake the restoration work.

My question is will this degrade the status of the guitar due to its being restored by another luthier? I found by sheer luck an example of his earlier work in the JMG Guitar Company based in Perth WA during the 80's and had him restore it to better than original but as he was working on his own guitar this never became an issue.

This is probably a silly question I know but better safe than sorry. This is a guitar I intend to keep.

Cheers,
Fred
Andries de Jager 1971

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Re: Will restoring a vintage guitar to bring it back to its former glory diminish it's value?

Post by Michael.N. » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:24 am

Surely that would depend on how good and sympathetic the restoration is. More importantly what exactly do you mean by stating that it hasn't been treated with respect. Details on the type and extent of damage would help. An instrument that has been around for 48 years should certainly show signs of wear, scratches, dings and even the odd crack.
As for the question of whether you need the original luthier to restore the guitar. Many people seem to think it's an imperative. I hold a completely different view. The worlds finest restorers are very often not makers. Such restorers get the opportunity to repair the finest violins in the world which are worth millions. Of course the original makers have been dead a few hundred years. Makers don't necessarily make for the best restorers. In fact you can safely say that the very best restorers are those who specialise in it. I'm here referring to advanced restoration. If it's a matter of repolishing or replacing frets etc then a great many makers are perfectly capable of that.
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Re: Will restoring a vintage guitar to bring it back to its former glory diminish it's value?

Post by souldier » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:08 pm

I don't know much about that luthier, but in general I think if collectible guitars are brought closer to their original state, rather than modifying, upgrading and replacing parts, then I think it should increase it's value. For example, some luthier's end up replacing the entire back or soundboard, but I would rather the original be maintained and skillfully repaired. Would like to hear what luthier Aaron Green has to say, seeing that he works with highly collectible guitars all the time.
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Re: Will restoring a vintage guitar to bring it back to its former glory diminish it's value?

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:25 pm

Unless the wear materially affects playability or sound I would prefer a vintage instrument in its existing state. Certainly, if it's about simple cosmetic scratches etc I'd leave well alone. If it's a matter cracks I'd have an expert give a view; some cracks can be left alone, others best dealt with.
My Panormo, (see below) I never saw in its in-restored state, but the evidence suggests it was once in pieces. An easy enough decision in such a case.
Simon Ambridge Series 40 (2005)
Trevor Semple Series 88 (1992)
Louis Panormo (1838)
Alexander Batov Baroque Guitar (2013)
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Re: Will restoring a vintage guitar to bring it back to its former glory diminish it's value?

Post by Steve Ganz » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:12 pm

Welcome to the forum, Fredinbroome.
Unless you know what you are doing, leave it, until you do know what you are doing.... or what YOU value.
A bad restoration can hurt the value.
A good restoration can help the value.

Stephen Kenyon's suggestion is practical. If it plays, and is not falling apart ( or threatening to), play it.
Steve

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