Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

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Re: Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

Post by eno » Fri May 03, 2019 5:47 pm

Rasqeo wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 5:42 pm
I owned a Bernabe Especial for a while. It was a good but not outstanding guitar. The new price for an Especial in the UK is £8,000. That is overpriced given that you can buy an equivalent quality guitar from an independent luthier for £3-4k and at least you will know who made it.
It really depends on the personal tonal preferences. Bernabes have a specific tonal profile that some people dislike and some other people (me included) really like. They are also very touchy, unforgiving and sensitive to the type of strings, nail shape, plucking technique, even the saddle material etc. so it's easy to set up and play them wrong and they indeed may sound poor if you do that.

Anyway, here is what a well-known luthier Aaron Green says about Bernabe:
"I consider Paulino Bernabe to be one of the finest luthiers of all time. Guitars that are of his own construction (as opposed to being made to his specifications) have always made a big impression on me."
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Re: Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

Post by Rasqeo » Fri May 03, 2019 5:51 pm

eno wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 5:47 pm
Rasqeo wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 5:42 pm
I owned a Bernabe Especial for a while. It was a good but not outstanding guitar. The new price for an Especial in the UK is £8,000. That is overpriced given that you can buy an equivalent quality guitar from an independent luthier for £3-4k and at least you will know who made it.
It really depends on the personal tonal preferences. Bernabes have a specific tonal profile that some people dislike and some other people (me included) really like.

Here is what a well-known luthier Aaron Green says about Bernabe:
"I consider Paulino Bernabe to be one of the finest luthiers of all time. Guitars that are of his own construction (as opposed to being made to his specifications) have always made a big impression on me."
I agree. I like Bernabes. I just think they are overpriced.

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Re: Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

Post by ajguitar » Fri May 03, 2019 7:14 pm

eno wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 5:32 pm
ajguitar wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 9:50 pm
I’m thinking of buying a Bernabé M20 Spruce model of somebody giving a good deal on it second hand. Anyone ever played one of these guitars and what was your experience with it? And are there any other guitars you would recommend ($4-5K)~
If you are lucky you can find a second-hand PB line Bername (made personally by Paulino Sr of Jr or both) for around $5K. They are still very rare though. I bought my India (PB line) for about $5K but that was a few yrs ago. I noticed that the Bernabes resale prices have been climbing up over the last years.
Rasqeo wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 1:53 pm
For the price of an M20 you can buy a secondhand (or in some cases new) luthier built guitar. Bernabes are overpriced imo. If you can, go to a dealer that has a selection of guitars in your price range and try as many as you can.
IMO it's just the opposite, they are underpriced for the mastery of the build and the tonal quality of the sound. But Bernabe family made too many of them and that's what brings the prices down.
Thanks For the input. I’m going to go ahead and buy a 2018 Barnabe M20.

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Re: Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

Post by Realstaff » Sat May 04, 2019 4:06 pm

ajguitar wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 7:14 pm
eno wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 5:32 pm
ajguitar wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 9:50 pm
I’m thinking of buying a Bernabé M20 Spruce model of somebody giving a good deal on it second hand. Anyone ever played one of these guitars and what was your experience with it? And are there any other guitars you would recommend ($4-5K)~
If you are lucky you can find a second-hand PB line Bername (made personally by Paulino Sr of Jr or both) for around $5K. They are still very rare though. I bought my India (PB line) for about $5K but that was a few yrs ago. I noticed that the Bernabes resale prices have been climbing up over the last years.
Rasqeo wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 1:53 pm
For the price of an M20 you can buy a secondhand (or in some cases new) luthier built guitar. Bernabes are overpriced imo. If you can, go to a dealer that has a selection of guitars in your price range and try as many as you can.
IMO it's just the opposite, they are underpriced for the mastery of the build and the tonal quality of the sound. But Bernabe family made too many of them and that's what brings the prices down.
Thanks For the input. I’m going to go ahead and buy a 2018 Barnabe M20.
Are you going for new or second hand ?

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Re: Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

Post by ajguitar » Sat May 04, 2019 4:59 pm

I’m actually getting The M15 new.

Realstaff

Re: Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

Post by Realstaff » Sun May 05, 2019 7:40 am

ajguitar wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 4:59 pm
I’m actually getting The M15 new.
Would be interested in your thoughts on it when you get it and how it compares to the m20

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Re: Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

Post by ajguitar » Sun May 05, 2019 7:54 am

Realstaff wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 7:40 am
ajguitar wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 4:59 pm
I’m actually getting The M15 new.
Would be interested in your thoughts on it when you get it and how it compares to the m20
Have you tried either?

Realstaff

Re: Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

Post by Realstaff » Sun May 05, 2019 7:57 am

I haven’t but I’ve heard good things on here about them.

Realstaff

Re: Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

Post by Realstaff » Fri May 17, 2019 7:13 pm

ajguitar wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 4:59 pm
I’m actually getting The M15 new.
Any updates on the m15?

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Re: Anyone have any experience with a Bernabé M20 Spruce?

Post by ajguitar » Sun May 19, 2019 5:00 pm

Realstaff wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 7:13 pm
ajguitar wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 4:59 pm
I’m actually getting The M15 new.
Any updates on the m15?
Actually got M20 new cedar top. Really good guitar I’m very happy with it.

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