Traditional 630 Guitar maker

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Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by nmshu1 » Sat May 18, 2019 7:35 pm

I like traditional 630 guitar. who is good at making it?
Douglass Scott? Kenny Hill? Any others?....

I like 650 sound but feel tired to play for long time...always try to find excellent guitar for small hands...
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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by realejo » Sun May 19, 2019 9:24 am

Hello - we have sold several 630 scale guitars made by Stephen Eden - really remarkable sound.
See - https://www.kentguitarclassics.com/clas ... m-spruce-2
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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by David Norton » Sun May 19, 2019 1:26 pm

You're in Bakersfield? Look up David Schramm, a fine luthier in Clovis. He's on Delcamp from time to time also.
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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by souldier » Sun May 19, 2019 1:54 pm

I've played Douglass's guitars. Traditional fan braced tone but with the horse power/dynamic range of a DT. Definitely an excellent option. You'd also benefit from the favorable USD to CAD exchange rate. Then again I just saw that you have a GVR 635. The 5mm probably wouldn't make much of a difference.
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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by GuitarsWeB » Sun May 19, 2019 2:24 pm

David Schramm just make George Sakellariou a 630mm guitar with a wider nut.

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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by nmshu1 » Sun May 19, 2019 7:48 pm

David Norton wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 1:26 pm
You're in Bakersfield? Look up David Schramm, a fine luthier in Clovis. He's on Delcamp from time to time also.
In 2016, I tried to visit his workshop in Clovis, but denied two times... so I gave up to buy his guitar.
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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by nmshu1 » Sun May 19, 2019 8:26 pm

souldier wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 1:54 pm
I've played Douglass's guitars. Traditional fan braced tone but with the horse power/dynamic range of a DT. Definitely an excellent option. You'd also benefit from the favorable USD to CAD exchange rate. Then again I just saw that you have a GVR 635. The 5mm probably wouldn't make much of a difference.
I have Kenny Hill Performance 630. So I know 5mm have big difference. Kenny Hill 630 is much easier than GVR 635.
To play Romantic and Modern music like Tarregar and Barrios, I prefer to traditional guitar.
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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by GuitarsWeB » Sun May 19, 2019 9:50 pm

I have Kenny Hill Performance 630. So I know 5mm have big difference. Kenny Hill 630 is much easier than GVR 635.
To play Romantic and Modern music like Tarregar and Barrios, I prefer to traditional guitar.
5mm difference from the 1st fret to the 5th fret??? That's the playing area with the hard stretches. It’s more like 1.5mm

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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by nmshu1 » Sun May 19, 2019 10:11 pm

GuitarsWeB wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 9:50 pm
I have Kenny Hill Performance 630. So I know 5mm have big difference. Kenny Hill 630 is much easier than GVR 635.
To play Romantic and Modern music like Tarregar and Barrios, I prefer to traditional guitar.
5mm difference from the 1st fret to the 5th fret??? That's the playing area with the hard stretches. It’s more like 1.5mm
5mm string length from Nut to Saddle.

When I practice Coste Op.38, I found even 0.5mm difference can make you play with ease.
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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by GuitarsWeB » Sun May 19, 2019 11:25 pm

When I practice Coste Op.38, I found even 0.5mm difference can make you play with ease.
1/2 a millimeter (0.5mm)! You can notice the difference? That’s hard to believe. Nut to saddle, 5mm...you’re not playing in that area.

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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by souldier » Mon May 20, 2019 12:12 am

nmshu1 wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 8:26 pm
souldier wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 1:54 pm
I've played Douglass's guitars. Traditional fan braced tone but with the horse power/dynamic range of a DT. Definitely an excellent option. You'd also benefit from the favorable USD to CAD exchange rate. Then again I just saw that you have a GVR 635. The 5mm probably wouldn't make much of a difference.
I have Kenny Hill Performance 630. So I know 5mm have big difference. Kenny Hill 630 is much easier than GVR 635.
To play Romantic and Modern music like Tarregar and Barrios, I prefer to traditional guitar.
I suspect the difference you are feeling is far more than just the scale length. There are many other aspects that go into perceived playability and I find Kenny Hills guitars to be more comfortable than many other guitars, regardless of scale length.
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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by nmshu1 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:01 am

GuitarsWeB wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 11:25 pm
When I practice Coste Op.38, I found even 0.5mm difference can make you play with ease.
1/2 a millimeter (0.5mm)! You can notice the difference? That’s hard to believe. Nut to saddle, 5mm...you’re not playing in that area.
sorry I mean string spacing.
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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by nmshu1 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:12 am

souldier wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 12:12 am
nmshu1 wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 8:26 pm
souldier wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 1:54 pm
I've played Douglass's guitars. Traditional fan braced tone but with the horse power/dynamic range of a DT. Definitely an excellent option. You'd also benefit from the favorable USD to CAD exchange rate. Then again I just saw that you have a GVR 635. The 5mm probably wouldn't make much of a difference.
I have Kenny Hill Performance 630. So I know 5mm have big difference. Kenny Hill 630 is much easier than GVR 635.
To play Romantic and Modern music like Tarregar and Barrios, I prefer to traditional guitar.
I suspect the difference you are feeling is far more than just the scale length. There are many other aspects that go into perceived playability and I find Kenny Hills guitars to be more comfortable than many other guitars, regardless of scale length.
I focus on scale length because it can not be changed. String spacing and action can be adjusted/changed. I know playability not only scale length.
Otto Vowinkel Concert 650 | Paulino Bernabe Torres 645 | Juan Hernandez Torres 640 | German V. Rubio Concert 635 | Kenny Hill Performance 630

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Re: Traditional 630 Guitar maker

Post by nmshu1 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:16 am

I know sometimes 650 is easier than 630 it depends on which repertoire you play...
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