Recommendations please for a decent guitar

jules
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Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by jules » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:10 pm

I've only been playing a couple of years (with a tutor) and have been learning on a crossover Yamaha CGx122MCC to be precise.
My tutor has suggested I look at upgrading to something better now as my playing is starting to develop (sometimes!) and has said I need to look at arounf the £1000 + for a reasonable one. He is going to have a look at what's around but I would love any suggestions.

I can go over £1500 without selling a kidney first! Any suggestions, or are there any classical guitar shops I should viit who can give me sounds advice ..I'm in Oxfordshire but happy to travel as it will be an investment on my part!!!

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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by souldier » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:16 pm

Definitely go to Kent Guitar Classics. Just a 1.5-2 hour drive from you. There are a few instruments within your price range that seem to be quite good value. Tell Miles your price range and ask him what he feels what will get you the most bang for your buck. The key is you want to find an instrument in your price range that sounds comparable to guitars several times their price, which is entirely possible.
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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by Realstaff » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:50 pm

I tried this Bernabe in Edinburgh, fantastic guitar but I just can’t stretch the finances. Depends on how far you can stretch your budget. If you search it on YouTube it’s got his email contact.


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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by Mr.Rain » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:03 am

On that budget,go for a second hand one or check Adalid,Juan Hernandez, Picado (or even Burguet..).
IMHO Bernabe's are overpriced compared to other builders (you can get more bang for the buck with any of these 4 makers listed before)

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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by dan5001 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:37 am

Kent guitar is great. You get miles' undivided attention and you can take as long as you want. Only thing is, check the website first. When I went there weren't too many guitars around £1500. To get a decent choice you might be looking at 2 to 2.5k.

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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by bear » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:42 am

Look at the "Guitars for Sale" section here. There may be one close to you that you can try out.
2019 Gretsch G9126 432mm
2013 Jeff Medlin '37 Hauser 640mm sp
2006 Michele Della Giustina Concert 10 string 650mm ce
2005 Jose Ramirez 4E 650mm ce
2005 Manuel Rodriguez Model C3F 650mm sp
2003 Manuel Rodriguez Model D 650mm ce

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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by simonm » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:57 am

dan5001 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:37 am
Kent guitar is great. You get miles' undivided attention and you can take as long as you want. Only thing is, check the website first. ...
Or better give him a call and see what he says. He may have something that isn't on the website.
There are a number of other good sources in the UK but as I don't know the geography very well I can't really make a suggestion.

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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by singlechange » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:31 pm

Though I live in the U.S.A. I can suggest a small guitar shop in Brighton, U.K. and the shop is run by Anthony Finch.
Anthony is a U.K. based musician and classical guitar specialist who has a good eye for finding good classical guitars from less known luthiers and factory makers and selling them.
Anthony told me he sold a U.K. luthier AA Jones classical guitar (you can look up the thread on AA Jones here on this forum) to a professional musician in Paris, France.

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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by DerekB » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:46 pm

If you go to Brighton you might want to look up Maestoso Music which is run by Paul Gregory. He has some very moderately priced luthier guitars but I would recommend try before you buy.
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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by jules » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:30 pm

Thank you for the suggestions (and keep them coming!) I'm happy to travel and I definitely need advising as I'm too much a newby to know a good buy from a bad one..and can't play well enough to really tell either! I could probably stretch to 2k (after all my husband has bikes that cost more!) but that's definitely the limit.
Out of interest are any parlour guitars any good? One of my family has one and I love the fractionally smaller size for ease but no idea if they would be a good long term prospect, or whether I just need to keep stretching til my hands finally find playing easier?

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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by Tonit » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:58 pm

Hi,
I recommend Luis Romero LR-60/70 at Guitarnotes (formerly Spanish Guitar Centre, Nottingham), for about max 1k GBP as per your instructor suggestion. It could be a very decent guitar while browsing around some luthier made guitars for the next few years, and would make a great second guitar after getting your convincingly favorite luthier one.

They appear to have been made in M. Raimundo factory, but with a little lower price tags like some Antonio Sanchez Spanish line. Raimundo factory is known to produce some Ramirez guitars also, so that the quality is relatively better for the money.

Please email or call Guitarnotes to verify the foregoing in case you decide upon one of those.

Happy playing,

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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by Mr.Rain » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:19 pm

jules wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:30 pm
...I'm happy to travel ...

One of my family has one and I love the fractionally smaller size for ease but no idea if they would be a good long term prospect, or whether I just need to keep stretching til my hands finally find playing easier?
If you are happy to travel I would suggest the following thing, an off peak season trip to Madrid or Barcelona, and checking "guitarras del luthier" or "Casa Luthier", you do not even have to buy it there but it could be a nice opportunity to check a big amount of builders into your budget(and outside as the 2nd hand instrument option is there if you are not too picky)

Regarding factionally smaller guitars, many people play 7/8" guitars or rather full body size guitars with a shorter scale (640/630mm the most common ones).Due to health reasons I play mostly my 630mm guitars(ordered made,sound every bit as good as regular scale instruments),also have some 620mm/ 640mm too(most of them pre 1910 Spanish guitars).

Some luthiers are used to build shorter scale instruments (not toys :mrgreen: ), not every luthier built them on a regular basis.

If your hands are small, or you have issues with them(RSI/tendinitis/weakness/carpal tunnel...), I kindly suggest you to consider going for a short scale & smaller nut instrument (or even a smaller body,in the shape of a Torres or other antiques)

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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by DerekB » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:54 am

It sounds to me as if a 640mm scale is what you need. One possibility is a Stephen Eden Cadenza from Kent Guitar Classics. It is at the top of your price range but I am sure you would not be disappointed. When my wife complains about what I spend on guitars I simply threaten to take up golf. Guitars are cheap compared to other musical instruments. £2000 would buy you a nice violin bow but you would still have to find serious money for the instrument itself.
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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by souldier » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:34 pm

jules wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:30 pm
Out of interest are any parlour guitars any good? One of my family has one and I love the fractionally smaller size for ease but no idea if they would be a good long term prospect, or whether I just need to keep stretching til my hands finally find playing easier?
I play on a 630 scale and love it for its ease of playability. There is nothing wrong with a smaller size instrument... It's like saying, "Should I wear shoes that fit my feet properly?" There is no reason why playing on an instrument with dimensions more suitable to you should be considered inferior.

With that said, it might be hard to find something of a shorter scale in your price range directly off the rack. Guitars made for dealers usually come in 650 since this is considered standard. In the end you just need to see what's available and what works. I wouldn't fixate on the scale length however as there are other aspects that impact playability. In the end, just put a guitar in your lap and see how it sounds and feels. You may be surprised to find that a larger scale instrument feels more comfortable to play than the shorter scale.
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Re: Recommendations please for a decent guitar

Post by FHC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:27 pm

Buy used, especially in this present market.

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