Guitar with elevated fingerboard

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Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by Gregory » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:26 am

Hello! I want to make a guitar with elevated fingerboard and it is my first.. I have designed and I want you say me if this plan is right . If it s possible to be made.
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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by James Lister » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:31 am

Yes, it's possible, but if you normally build using a solera, then it requires a different construction technique. Some makers have a join between the neck and the extension part (under the fingerboard above the 12th fret), which makes things a bit easier, but it's better practice to have the neck extend as a continuous piece right up to the soundhole. For the ones I've made, I decided it was better not to use the solera method, and built the body and neck separately, and used a tapered tenon to join them. That joint is tricky to get right, as you're trying to control the neck angle in 2 axes, and also get a perfect fit in the tenon itself, and between the heel and the ribs, and between the fingerboard extension and the soundboard. I wouldn't recommend attempting it until you have built a good number of traditional guitars.

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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by Gregory » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:23 pm

Thank you about your advices!I think to build it lazar's style..on solera..because I have used solera it is easier for me than your way..it is better for you I build again one hauser' s style?

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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by James Lister » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:26 pm

If you want to build to a particular design that works for you (e.g. Hauser), then you might be better to keep the angle between the strings and the soundboard the same. Rather than slope the whole soundboard downwards towards the neck, you just slope the upper bout down by bending the soundboard at the lower harmonic bar. This keeps the geometry of the lower bout the same.

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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by Michael.N. » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:49 pm

Or you could go with something like the Stauffer style neck, elevated and adjustable. Two for one.
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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by geoff-bristol » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:14 pm

What generally is the advantage of an elevated neck ?

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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by Michael.N. » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:23 pm

They say it's easier access to the post 12 th fret notes. Not sure if that is true.
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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by S.H.Tan » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:05 pm

+1 geoff-bristol.
Does it improve the acoustics?
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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by geoff-bristol » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:07 pm

I suppose one could get away with a thinner board on a raised neck - if using a domed top ?

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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by Gregory » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:11 pm

If we build it the top will be domed..full radius 30.
And the back radius 15..

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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by Michael.N. » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:30 pm

S.H.Tan wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:05 pm
+1 geoff-bristol.
Does it improve the acoustics?
I think if that was obvious we would all be building elevated necks. It's not like they are a new idea. I'm certainly not against them if that is what someone desires. They can throw you off the left hand geography of the 12 th fret position (at least it did me) but that's just a matter of becoming accustomed to it or perhaps it just needed a position marker. In some ways elevated and adjustable necks go together.
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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by Steve Ganz » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:07 am

Gregory. Nice job on the drawing. I'd say you have the geometry pretty close. 6 mm at the 12th fret may be a bit high, but a nice thing about the elevated fingerboard construction is that you can adjust the slope of the ramp before gluing on the fingerboard...
The height a the bridge is correct for a target.
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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by Gregory » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:24 am

Thank you mr Ganz..you give me the advice to make a smaller neck angle??

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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by Steve Ganz » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:56 am

Gregory,
That is one variable you can manipulate. Another is the height of the fingerboard above the top. The angle of the top itself. I think you are close. Which variable(s) to change ... that is your choice. Do you see?
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Re: Guitar with elevated fingerboard

Post by Gregory » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:22 pm

Mr Ganzit is easy to tell me if not 6 mm to 12 fret, how much is the right?

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