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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by rinneby » Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:30 pm

James A. Showalter wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:29 pm
That's a nice sound clip Jon.

I like the Ryoji guitars and would welcome a No. 20 in my collection.

Thanks for sharing it.
James
Thanks everyone, however this guitar is sold, maybe that was stupid of me? Haha :)

/J
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Post by Jorge Oliveira » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:14 pm

This is Fernando Sor's Opus 60 #1 recorded this morning with my 1979 Ryoji Matsuoka No.40, Cedar top, Indian rosewood B&S, with Knobloch Actives Carbon CX, High Tension strings (4 months, 23 days old and 83,49 hours of active playing time). The record was produced with the Zoom Handy Recorder app on my iPhone, the sound capture being made by an iRig microphone that connects directly to the iPhone. The resulting .wav file was then processed with the Audacity audio editor on Windows 10 to produce the .mp3 file below. No special effects were added either during the recording or the editing sessions.

Fernando Sor Opus 60 #1.mp3
1972 - Kuniharu Nobe #8, 658/52, Spr, IN RW, Tokyo, JP
1976 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.50, 650/53, Ced, IN RW, JP
1979 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.40, 650/53, Ced, IN RW, JP
2014 - Hermanos Camps Master Nº 3, 650/52, CA Ced, MG RW, Banyoles, ES

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Post by James A. Showalter » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:35 am

Jorge,
That is so cool. The sound of the guitar and your playing is superb. The processing you've done to give us this final product was just icing on the cake so to speak. I am certain your submission is greatly appreciated beyond myself and what I can express.

Thank you.
James
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by William Byrd » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:37 am

Beautiful Jorge. I only hope that some day soon I'll be able to make similar beautiful music with my Ryoji Matsuoka guitars.
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Post by James A. Showalter » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:46 am

Dumb question retracted.
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by dmax745 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:55 am

Jorge Oliveira wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:14 pm
This is Fernando Sor's Opus 60 #1 recorded this morning with my 1979 Ryoji Matsuoka No.40, Cedar top, Indian rosewood B&S, with Knobloch Actives Carbon CX, High Tension strings (4 months, 23 days old and 83,49 hours of active playing time). The record was produced with the Zoom Handy Recorder app on my iPhone, the sound capture being made by an iRig microphone that connects directly to the iPhone. The resulting .wav file was then processed with the Audacity audio editor on Windows 10 to produce the .mp3 file below. No special effects were added either during the recording or the editing sessions.

Fernando Sor Opus 60 #1.mp3
Hi, to my unprofessional ear, that sounds great! Nice sounding guitar - I like the sustain.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Jorge Oliveira » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:58 am

James A. Showalter wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:35 am
Jorge,
That is so cool. The sound of the guitar and your playing is superb. The processing you've done to give us this final product was just icing on the cake so to speak. I am certain your submission is greatly appreciated beyond myself and what I can express.
William Byrd wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:37 am
Beautiful Jorge. I only hope that some day soon I'll be able to make similar beautiful music with my Ryoji Matsuoka guitars.

Thank you.
James
dmax745 wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:55 am
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Hi, to my unprofessional ear, that sounds great! Nice sounding guitar - I like the sustain.
Thank you, James, thank you, William, and thank you dmax745, for your encouraging words, you are all very kind, I appreciate. Yes, this particular Matsuoka, which I acquired a year ago in the Japanese auction site Buyee, cost me only 205 Euros (see, please, this post with some pictures). Air transport from Tokyo to Lisbon, customs, VAT, cleaning, action adjustments (it was too high for my taste) and replacing the original tuners, first by Van Gent, and later, by Rubner ones, increased the cost to 670 Euros, an amazing low value for such an excellent instrument. The basses are really phenomenal, it has a good sustain and it is very comfortable to play with.

As for the clip, I recorded as part of a Project I started some two years ago to learn, together with other interested Forum Members, all the 25 pieces of Fernando Sor Opus 60. I've finished my part of the assignment and I plan to start a similar Project beginning of next year, but now with Fernando Sor Opus 35, whereby the pieces are a bit more demanding. Meanwhile, I'm reviewing the records I did along the Opus 60 Project, replacing with new versions those I feel I can improve (see, please, the post in that thread with the same record I presented in this one).
1972 - Kuniharu Nobe #8, 658/52, Spr, IN RW, Tokyo, JP
1976 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.50, 650/53, Ced, IN RW, JP
1979 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.40, 650/53, Ced, IN RW, JP
2014 - Hermanos Camps Master Nº 3, 650/52, CA Ced, MG RW, Banyoles, ES

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by William Byrd » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:32 am

I received this yesterday and thought some of you may find it of interest. It's a 1959 Sakazo Nakade Custom Build. I believe the top is Ezo spruce, back and sides are BRW, and an ebony fingerboard. I felt around on the inside and went in with a flashlight. It's definitely a Torres 7 fan bracing pattern on the soundboard. Any suggestions for strings?
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Post by rinneby » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:35 am

William Byrd wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:32 am
I received this yesterday and thought some of you may find it of interest. It's a 1959 Sakazo Nakade Custom Build. I believe the top is Ezo spruce, back and sides are BRW, and an ebony fingerboard. I felt around on the inside and went in with a flashlight. It's definitely a Torres 7 fan bracing pattern on the soundboard. Any suggestions for strings?
Nice find! These custom build guitars are always interesting. I would recommend starting with Daddario EJ45 and decide from there. But Low-tension strings always works on these lightly built old guitars, at least in my opinion. (I count EJ45 as low-tension).

/J
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Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by William Byrd » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:39 am

rinneby wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:35 am
William Byrd wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:32 am
I received this yesterday and thought some of you may find it of interest. It's a 1959 Sakazo Nakade Custom Build. I believe the top is Ezo spruce, back and sides are BRW, and an ebony fingerboard. I felt around on the inside and went in with a flashlight. It's definitely a Torres 7 fan bracing pattern on the soundboard. Any suggestions for strings?
Nice find! These custom build guitars are always interesting. I would recommend starting with Daddario EJ45 and decide from there. But Low-tension strings always works on these lightly built old guitars, at least in my opinion. (I count EJ45 as low-tension).

/J
Thanks for the recommendation. I was hoping you would chime in. Structurally, there are no issues at all. Just a well aged spruce top.
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Post by rinneby » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:42 am

William Byrd wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:39 am
rinneby wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:35 am
William Byrd wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:32 am
I received this yesterday and thought some of you may find it of interest. It's a 1959 Sakazo Nakade Custom Build. I believe the top is Ezo spruce, back and sides are BRW, and an ebony fingerboard. I felt around on the inside and went in with a flashlight. It's definitely a Torres 7 fan bracing pattern on the soundboard. Any suggestions for strings?
Nice find! These custom build guitars are always interesting. I would recommend starting with Daddario EJ45 and decide from there. But Low-tension strings always works on these lightly built old guitars, at least in my opinion. (I count EJ45 as low-tension).

/J
Thanks for the recommendation. I was hoping you would chime in. Structurally, there are no issues at all. Just a well aged spruce top.
What strings do you have at home? Or are you buying new ones?

/J
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
2016 - Pete Beer

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by William Byrd » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:51 am

rinneby wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:42 am
William Byrd wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:39 am
rinneby wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:35 am

Nice find! These custom build guitars are always interesting. I would recommend starting with Daddario EJ45 and decide from there. But Low-tension strings always works on these lightly built old guitars, at least in my opinion. (I count EJ45 as low-tension).

/J
Thanks for the recommendation. I was hoping you would chime in. Structurally, there are no issues at all. Just a well aged spruce top.
What strings do you have at home? Or are you buying new ones?

/J
I just happen to have some EJ45s.
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Post by Jacek A. Rochacki » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:03 am

rinneby wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:35 am
...But Low-tension strings always works on these lightly built old guitars, at least in my opinion. (I count EJ45 as low-tension).
/J
Following advices of @Ramon Amira some time ago I become sworn aficionado of low tension strings. I have been playing many of them. Surely I know D'Addario J 45, but if we consider them low-tension, then what about D'Addario J 43 ? super-low?
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by William Byrd » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:06 am

Jacek A. Rochacki wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:03 am
rinneby wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:35 am
...But Low-tension strings always works on these lightly built old guitars, at least in my opinion. (I count EJ45 as low-tension).
/J
Following advices of @Ramon Amira some time ago I become sworn aficionado of low tension strings. I have been playing many of them. Surely I know D'Addario J 45, but if we consider them low-tension, then what about D'Addario J 43 ? super-low?
Perhaps I need to place an order for some EJ43s and try both.
1965 Seizo Shinano No 93
1969 Sakazo Nakade No 1000G
1971 Mitsuru Tamura No 600
1998 German V. Rubio

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by William Byrd » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:09 am

William Byrd wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:06 am
Jacek A. Rochacki wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:03 am
rinneby wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:35 am
...But Low-tension strings always works on these lightly built old guitars, at least in my opinion. (I count EJ45 as low-tension).
/J
Following advices of @Ramon Amira some time ago I become sworn aficionado of low tension strings. I have been playing many of them. Surely I know D'Addario J 45, but if we consider them low-tension, then what about D'Addario J 43 ? super-low?
Perhaps I need to place an order for some EJ43s and try both.
Order placed. Thanks for the recommendation.
1965 Seizo Shinano No 93
1969 Sakazo Nakade No 1000G
1971 Mitsuru Tamura No 600
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