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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by rinneby » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:44 pm

Update 2019

Our list of Japanese luthiers now looks like this. Anyone missing?


Akihiko Yamashita
Akio Naniki
Alberto Nejime Ohno
Atsushi Nakamura
Daisuke Kuriyama
Eisuke Nishitani
Hakusui Imai
Harutaka Nagasue
Hideo Ida
Hideyuki Ezaki
Hiroaki Honma
Hirohiko Hirose
Hiroshi Abe
Hiroshi Komori
Hiroshi Tamura
Hiroumi Yamaguchi
Hisao Hoshina
Ichizo Kobayashi
Iuchi Koji
Jun Nakano
Jun Ohnishi
Kaoru Ono
Katsumi Arai
Kawada Ikkoh
Kazuo Hashimoto
Kazuo Ichiyanagi (Kazuo Toshi)
Kazuo Sato
Kazuo Yairi
Kazuyuki Kawamura
Ken Tamura
Kenji Watanabe
Kimiyoshi Noda
Kiyohide Oku
Kiyohide Shoji
Kodama Kanoh
Kuniharu Nobe
Kunihiko Ichiyanagi
Kuniyoshi Matsui
Makoto Teramachi
Masafumi Nobe
Masahiro Tanabe
Masaji Nobe
Masaki Sakurai
Masamichi Kinoshita
Masanobu Matsumura
Masaru Kohno
Masaru Matano
Masashi Takata
Mass Hirade
Michihiro Matsuda
Mikio Hongo
Mitsuharu Hoshi
Mitsuru Tamura
Naohiro Kawashima
Narutaka Nagasue
Noboru Nakayama
Norimitsu Tsutsumi
Osam Nakayama
Osamu Nakade
Osamu Sakamoto
Osamu Tomita
Rokutaro Nakade
Ryoji Matsuoka
Saburo Nogami
Sadao Yairi
Sakae Ishii
Sakazo Nakade
Satoru Sakuma
Seiji Inaba
Seiji Kamata
Seizo Shinano
Shigeru Namiki
Shoji Nobe
Shuichi Komiyama
Shunpei Nishino
Shunsuke Yokoo
Sumio Kurosawa
Tadao Sato
Taizo Minezawa
Takahide Kaneko
Takao Yamanashi
Takashi Miura
Taro Maruyama
Tasaki Morio
Tatsuhiko Hirose
Teruaki Nakade
Teruji Yamano
Tetsuo Kurosawa
Toshihiko Nakade
Toshihiko Tanaka
Toshihiko Tokugawa
Toshihito Maruyama
Toshio Kato
Tsunao Kubo
Tsunesaburo Kurosawa
Wataru Tsuji
Yasuyuki Abe
Yoshifumi Matsumoto
Yoshihiro Inaba
Yoshimasa Kuroda
Yoshimitsu Hoshino
Yoshinori Morii
Youhei Nishino
Yuichi Imai
Yuichi Nagasaki
Yukihide Chai
Yukinobu Chai
Yukio Nakade
Yutaka Iwata

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2016 - Pete Beer

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by dandan » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:12 pm

Masaru Takeiri
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by rinneby » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:13 pm

dandan wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:12 pm
Masaru Takeiri
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Shakelford » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:26 pm

Is a Hernandis officially a Japanese guitar, I think mine was made there of woods from other places?
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Beowulf » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:38 pm

Shakelford wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:26 pm
Is a Hernandis officially a Japanese guitar, I think mine was made there of woods from other places?
Both of mine are Japanese...the wood comes from Germany, Brazil, Honduras, Spain, Madagascar, Africa and Japan. Wood from other countries is usual.
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Mollbarre » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:55 pm

What constitutes a Japanese guitar?

Made in Japan? Made by a Japanese luthier? Has to be both?

What about a Japanese luthier who made a guitar in Germany, or an American luthier who made a guitar in Japan? :wink:
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Beowulf » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:19 pm

Mollbarre wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:55 pm
What constitutes a Japanese guitar?

Made in Japan? Made by a Japanese luthier? Has to be both?

What about a Japanese luthier who made a guitar in Germany, or an American luthier who made a guitar in Japan? :wink:
José Romanillos (born in Spain) made many instruments in England...AFAIK his instruments are described as Spanish, not English. My GC82S was made using the tonal references of Hauser I and Santos Hernandez by a Japanese luthier in Japan. Is it German, Spanish or Japanese? I think one would consider the origin of the luthier first.
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Jorge Oliveira » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:46 pm

rinneby wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:44 pm
Update 2019

Our list of Japanese luthiers now looks like this. Anyone missing?
...
Kind regards from Sweden
/Jon
Hi Jon:

Thanks for your list. Soem of the names were new to me. However, and starting with your previous one, I've been collecting myself names of luthiers from the action site in Japan and I got some more to add to your list. But, please, check, I may have misspelled some of them :D.

Atsushi Yamamoto
Eichi Kodaira
Eiichi Hayashi
Harada ShuHirosh
Hirohisa Tomura
Ichi Matsuoka
Ikeda Suehiro
Ikkoh Kawada
Jinichiro Matsunaga
Kano Kitamashi
Kawaigakki Kawai
Kazuo Toshi
Kitaori Tadanao
Kiyoto Tanaka
Kodaira Xiaoping
Kuzuyuki Kawamura
Masao Koga
Masao Shoji
Masato Nishino
Matsumura MiyabiWataru
Miura Takashi
Morio Tazaki
Nardan Natama
Niichiro Matsunaga
Nit Kawashima
Nittiku Kogio
Ryuji Gamo Hotaka
Sakamoto Osamu
Tadashitsukasa Inaba
Toshiro Kato (I think it is Toshiro and not Toshio, please check)
Toshiyuki Fujimori
Uno Mitsuru
Yamanaka Kanemitsu Toramoku
Yasuo Abe
Yoshihiro Taniguchi
Yukio Chai
Yusaku Mokuhara
Yusuke Kyoto

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Jorge
1972 - Kuniharu Nobe #8, 658/52, Spr, IN RW, Tokyo, JP
1976 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.50, 650/53, Ced, IN RW, JP
1979 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.40, 650/53, Ced, IN RW, JP
2014 - Hermanos Camps Master Nº 3, 650/52, CA Ced, MG RW, Banyoles, ES

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by rinneby » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:13 pm

Jorge Oliveira wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:46 pm
rinneby wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:44 pm
Update 2019

Our list of Japanese luthiers now looks like this. Anyone missing?
...
Kind regards from Sweden
/Jon
Hi Jon:

Thanks for your list. Soem of the names were new to me. However, and starting with your previous one, I've been collecting myself names of luthiers from the action site in Japan and I got some more to add to your list. But, please, check, I may have misspelled some of them :D.

Atsushi Yamamoto
Eichi Kodaira
Eiichi Hayashi
Harada ShuHirosh
Hirohisa Tomura
Ichi Matsuoka
Ikeda Suehiro
Ikkoh Kawada
Jinichiro Matsunaga
Kano Kitamashi
Kawaigakki Kawai
Kazuo Toshi
Kitaori Tadanao
Kiyoto Tanaka
Kodaira Xiaoping
Kuzuyuki Kawamura
Masao Koga
Masao Shoji
Masato Nishino
Matsumura MiyabiWataru
Miura Takashi
Morio Tazaki
Nardan Natama
Niichiro Matsunaga
Nit Kawashima
Nittiku Kogio
Ryuji Gamo Hotaka
Sakamoto Osamu
Tadashitsukasa Inaba
Toshiro Kato (I think it is Toshiro and not Toshio, please check)
Toshiyuki Fujimori
Uno Mitsuru
Yamanaka Kanemitsu Toramoku
Yasuo Abe
Yoshihiro Taniguchi
Yukio Chai
Yusaku Mokuhara
Yusuke Kyoto

Best regards,

Jorge
Many of these are on my list, but I will check for the new ones :) Thank's.

/J
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2016 - Pete Beer

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Jorge Oliveira » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:21 pm

ChristianSchwengeler wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:56 am
Jorge Oliveira wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:40 pm

To conclude, I'm so impressed with this "transformation" that I'm seriously considering to do the same with my R. Matsuoka No.40 :D. May be it keeps its strong voice but the notes will open and separate a little bit more, who knows? Any advice?
It can go both way, for the better or the worse, and it is not really possible to predict this. There is some consensus that in many cases the finish is a part of the instrument and this is often taken into consideration when the instrument is built. Your Matsuoka Nº 40 is allready a very nice instrument and I would not refinsish it, risking turning it worse.
Many thanks for your advice, Christian. That settles it, then, we will leave the Matsuoka 40 as it is 8). I'll see if I can change a bit the "colour" of the guitar - I wanted it a bit more brighter - by experimenting with different strings. Any ideas, folks? :D
1972 - Kuniharu Nobe #8, 658/52, Spr, IN RW, Tokyo, JP
1976 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.50, 650/53, Ced, IN RW, JP
1979 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.40, 650/53, Ced, IN RW, JP
2014 - Hermanos Camps Master Nº 3, 650/52, CA Ced, MG RW, Banyoles, ES

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Trev » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:50 pm

Hi Jon, there's a current thread in 'advice on buying a guitar' section asking to identify a signature on a Hirade H8. The signature isn't easy to read but the OP has made an attempt - Futuo Furui which is the same signature in my 1995 Takamine Hirade H20. Also mentions Masaichi Furui as being Head Luthier at Takamine, years 1978-80. I have no knowledge here but I cant see either luthier in your list.
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Bryan Pannell » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:40 am

Need information about early 1960’s Kohno / fleta
Hybrid prototype , no label guitars.

All input appreciated .

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Post by rinneby » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:36 am

Bryan Pannell wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:40 am
Need information about early 1960’s Kohno / fleta
Hybrid prototype , no label guitars.

All input appreciated .
What do you want to know? I'm afraid It's impossible to tell without any pictures.

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2016 - Pete Beer

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by andreas777 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:14 pm

I've received a PM from a forum member with questions about my Asturias JM20S guitars and I decided to answer them here.

Both guitars have spruce top and rosewood back and sides, and the year of manufacture is 1984 and 1985. I have another John Mills guitar, a JM15C with cedar top from 1985. The finish of the first guitar that I bought was very worn, especially on the back of the guitar, so I brought the guitar to a local luthier who removed the complete finish (top, back, sides, neck) and put on a thin shellac varnish. Later on I decided to ask another luthier to refret this guitar. The interesting thing is that after grinding the ebony fretboard it's not completely black anymore but you can see is a nice structure. Both guitars are probably not as loud as a new top concert guitar but have a beautiful sweet sound with a good sustain. With new finish and frets the guitar looks almost new :-)

I hardly play both of them because I consider them collectible items and because I have more than 20 other guitars. The reason why I bought them was that I already owned some other Asturias guitars, and I was very satisfied with their sound and their quality. I also owned and played many factory guitars from Spain. When you inspect the inside of an Asturias guitar and you compare it to many factory guitars from Spain, then you see the good craftsmanship of Asturias guitars with their accuracy and without ugly traces of glue. The reason why I bought my Asturias guitars and not a guitar from a German luthier was the lower price I have to pay for a similar quality.

I hope this answers all questions. Here are some pictures of my JM20S guitars:
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Leo » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:47 pm

Jorge Oliveira wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:21 pm
ChristianSchwengeler wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:56 am
Jorge Oliveira wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:40 pm

To conclude, I'm so impressed with this "transformation" that I'm seriously considering to do the same with my R. Matsuoka No.40 :D. May be it keeps its strong voice but the notes will open and separate a little bit more, who knows? Any advice?
It can go both way, for the better or the worse, and it is not really possible to predict this. There is some consensus that in many cases the finish is a part of the instrument and this is often taken into consideration when the instrument is built. Your Matsuoka Nº 40 is allready a very nice instrument and I would not refinsish it, risking turning it worse.
Many thanks for your advice, Christian. That settles it, then, we will leave the Matsuoka 40 as it is 8). I'll see if I can change a bit the "colour" of the guitar - I wanted it a bit more brighter - by experimenting with different strings. Any ideas, folks? :D
For more brightness and also very sweet strings, I would recommend Aquila Alchemia strings, they are my favorite strings, and work very well on one guitar that I own which needs more brightness and volume in the trebles. They do have squeaky sound to them as you slide your fingers up and down the fretboard when changing position on the trebles, but this sound goes away as you play them in. Also Aquila Rubino are very bright and worth a try, both these strings are a better option compared to carbon strings, that are thinner in sound quality and higher in tension.
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