We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Construction and repair of Classical Guitar and related instruments
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by rinneby » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:09 am

James A. Showalter wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:19 am
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This is my 1972 Ryoji Matsuoka that I repaired the sound board on. It's still not pretty but it is structurally sound now and still plays well. It has a deep tone and is easy to play. I'll probably readdress the finish with another application of water sanding with 600-grit and another coat of Royal Lac finish the next time I change strings.

The large blemish below the sound hole was a deep gouge where the previous owner planted his pinky while playing. He ate up a bit of the cedar top with his fingernail and there was a crack due to grain separation through its middle. The other wide blemishes are grain separation cracks and the sound board had curled up parallel to each of them. When I filled each of these with the expanding glue and sanded it the curled wood was in some areas removed with the excess glue by the flattening process resulting in the medium blemishes. There were other thinner separation cracks as well that did not exhibit the curling of the sound board. These filled with the glue and sanded flat nicely and can be seen as linear features on the sound board.

I tried to rotate the photo but had no luck.
James
Thank's for the pictures James, I wish you best of luck with further restoration. And remember, a guitar is only as good as it sounds, looks come second :)

/J
1972 - Ryoji Matsuoka
2007 - Curt Claus Voigt
2017 - Tobias Braun

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by rpavich » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:50 pm

Well....I'm now (temporarily) a two-japanese-guitar-person. :)

I have my GC22 but just bought the AST-100 from this thread! I'm pretty excited.


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Asturias AST-100-heavily modified by Robert England.

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Post by Jacek A. Rochacki » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:57 pm

well...yes and no...in my opinion what you just have bought is a luthier's (in Canada) constructed/built (some would say: assembled, but the top and other elements are luthier created, so it is not typical assembling) guitar based on box of the AST-100.
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by rpavich » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:01 pm

Jacek A. Rochacki wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:57 pm
well...yes and no...in my opinion what you just have bought is a luthier's (in Canada) constructed/built (some would say: assembled, but the top and other elements are luthier created, so it is not typical assembling) guitar based on box of the AST-100.
True.

Now the wait. :)
Asturias AST-100-heavily modified by Robert England.

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Post by James A. Showalter » Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:48 pm

Jon,
This is the one I can travel with, play it when I'm drinking and just makin' noise. It's got that kind of voice and its looks match me - just respectively old but too early yet to be put away.
James
1972 Ryoji Matsuoka, NO 18
1990 Takamine C132S
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Post by James A. Showalter » Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:58 pm

rpavich,
This AST Luthier hybrid sounds like an amazing guitar. I think I will have to start selling some of my Martins to make room for more unique Nippon's.
Good luck with it.
James
1972 Ryoji Matsuoka, NO 18
1990 Takamine C132S
2014 Sakurai Kohno Pro-J
Martin Guitars (D28, MC28, D12-28, J-40)
National Resonator Guitar
Les Paul

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Post by rpavich » Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:00 am

James A. Showalter wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:58 pm
rpavich,
This AST Luthier hybrid sounds like an amazing guitar. I think I will have to start selling some of my Martins to make room for more unique Nippon's.
Good luck with it.
James
Thanks!
If it sounds like i hope it will, ill be very happy!
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Post by Nappingdog » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:05 pm

Yeah I’ve wanted a nakade from the 50s for a while, one of my favorites George cromarty played one on “wind in the heather” which is a must have modern classical record!
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Post by rinneby » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:45 pm

Nappingdog wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:05 pm
Yeah I’ve wanted a nakade from the 50s for a while, one of my favorites George cromarty played one on “wind in the heather” which is a must have modern classical record!
Listening to George Cromarty's Wind In The Heather right now, that's a lovely (and quite unusual) sound for sure :) Thank's for the tip!

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1972 - Ryoji Matsuoka
2007 - Curt Claus Voigt
2017 - Tobias Braun

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Post by JohnH* » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:56 pm

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Where did the Grand Concert GD-20C fit in the Yamaha guitar lineup?
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Post by JohnH* » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:24 pm

Already got the answer from Beowulf on the "Yamaha" topic! Thanks!
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Nappingdog » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:59 pm

rinneby wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:45 pm
Nappingdog wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:05 pm
Yeah I’ve wanted a nakade from the 50s for a while, one of my favorites George cromarty played one on “wind in the heather” which is a must have modern classical record!
Listening to George Cromarty's Wind In The Heather right now, that's a lovely (and quite unusual) sound for sure :) Thank's for the tip!

/J
he’s the best! In the back cover of “grass roots guitar” it has a note saying “ played on a s nakade classical commissioned in 1959 by Bunyan Webb in tokyyo”
Mark A, tupelo MS
Chris Carrington cedar 1995
Sakurai no 5 1975
Kenny Hill(la Mancha) Munich
Martin om-21 steel string
Takamine hirade h-15
Mitsuru Tamura 500 spruce/indian 1975
J Ramírez 1a 1974

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by James A. Showalter » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:58 am

played on a s nakade classical commissioned in 1959 by Bunyan Webb in tokyyo
An interesting bit of guitar lore -
1972 Ryoji Matsuoka, NO 18
1990 Takamine C132S
2014 Sakurai Kohno Pro-J
Martin Guitars (D28, MC28, D12-28, J-40)
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Post by rinneby » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:12 am

Nappingdog wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:59 pm
rinneby wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:45 pm
Nappingdog wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:05 pm
Yeah I’ve wanted a nakade from the 50s for a while, one of my favorites George cromarty played one on “wind in the heather” which is a must have modern classical record!
Listening to George Cromarty's Wind In The Heather right now, that's a lovely (and quite unusual) sound for sure :) Thank's for the tip!

/J
he’s the best! In the back cover of “grass roots guitar” it has a note saying “ played on a s nakade classical commissioned in 1959 by Bunyan Webb in tokyyo”
I'm thinking of recoding some with the Nakade in coming days, stay tuned! :)

/J
1972 - Ryoji Matsuoka
2007 - Curt Claus Voigt
2017 - Tobias Braun

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by rinneby » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:52 pm

Here's the Rokutaro Nakade 1962. No equalization, La Bella 2001 Medium Tension strings. A quite charming sound, at least to my ears:

1972 - Ryoji Matsuoka
2007 - Curt Claus Voigt
2017 - Tobias Braun

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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