A ‘genealogy’ of UK classical guitar-makers? How is the craft transmitted?

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Re: A ‘genealogy’ of UK classical guitar-makers? How is the craft transmitted?

Post by Michael.N. » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:12 pm

I seem to recall Peter Barton telling me that he studied viol making at West Dean but you'll have to email him to confirm. It's so many years ago that I could be getting him mixed up with someone else.
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Post by josswinn » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:18 pm

Thanks Michael. What about yourself? :-)
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Post by Michael.N. » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:34 pm

Crikey. Where do I begin? Taught by Leeds College of Music (Kevin Wilkes, mainly violin), ex London College of Furniture, ex Newark (violin). There were others!
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Post by RedCliff » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:56 pm

I believe Glasgow Clyde College has run musical stringed instrument making courses for a number of years. They must have knocked out a few luthiers north of the border by now. The teachers are listed on the website.
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Post by Dave M » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:42 pm

West Dean College used to offer short courses on G building. I did one with Zachary Taylor. I have a small niggle that they may once have done longer courses but I could be wrong.
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Post by josswinn » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:00 pm

Thanks Giles and Dave.

These are the UK courses I've been able to find, including your suggestions:

Glasgow Clyde College

London Metropolitan University

Merton College

Newark College

South Thames College

Totnes School of Guitar Making

West Dean College

Wiltshire College

I wil go through the websites as you suggest and add the tutors to the spreadsheet.
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Post by vesa » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:31 pm

Hi Joss:
Check pages 72-74 in Romanillos Torres book. Some info from there:
Hector Quine (made the guitar Bream used in his first recording), Wilfrid Appleby,
Eric V. Ridge, A.R. Knowles.
¨Make your own Spanish guitar¨(1957) written by A.P. Sharpe was an inspiration to many, according to Romanillos.
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Post by josswinn » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:23 pm

Vesa, that's a really useful reference. Thanks!

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Post by josswinn » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:34 am

gjo wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:58 am
The „Classical Guitar Companion“ by Sue McCradie from 1982 lists some of the english makers and the old Guitar Magazine might be helpful in finding some interviews and portraits, and probably some more useful informations.
The book arrived and includes the following UK makers:

Paul Fischer
Martin Fleeson
Edward Jones (like Fischer, trained with Goble (Harpsichords) and then Rubio (Guitars).
George Love
John Mack
Louis Panormo
Harald Petersen (followed by sons, Tom and Peter)
Jose L Romanillos
David Rubio
Peter Sensier
Anthony J Smith

I have updated the list. Thank you.
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Post by gjo » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:26 am

Anthony Smith once shared the (Bream)workshop with Romanillos and the harpsichord maker.

Later Smith taught at the school in Salt Lake City.

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Post by John Ray » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:57 am

Christopher Dean gave a lecture about the development of the guitar in England at the Cordefactum festival in Belgium last year, It might be worth contacting him as he did mention the connections betweeen some makers. http://www.cmbpuurs.be/04_1_cordefactum_en.php
Some of the lectures over the years should definitely be published for future reference. I found Gerhard Oldiges' lecture about Hauser particularily interesting.
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Post by josswinn » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:31 am

Thanks, John. I will do. There are a few people I want to contact, not least to find out where they are located in the UK.

I have just put together this map of UK classical guitar makers, based on the information I have gathered so far. In many cases, luthiers have their post code on their website, so it was simple enough. Other times, they might mention the city, town or village (or nearest train station!) and I have used that. Occasionally, I've been able to identify the rough location from their telephone code. Where they have just mentioned a region of the UK, I've left them off the map for now and will contact them (if they are still alive).
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Post by Dave M » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:04 pm

Like the map. DM
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Post by DerekB » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:28 pm

A couple of names to add to your list, Joss. Philip Woodfield and Roger Williams.


Are you going to include British luthiers working abroad such as Stephen Hill and Andy Martin? And if you include Jose Romanillos why not Jose Marques, Carlo Errico and other makers from overseas working in this country?

Another name has just occurred to me, Graham Eames.

Peter Sensier, of course, was best know as a performer in the duo Dorita y Pepe. He was one of my main sources of information about the guitar when I first started playing over sixty years ago through his articles in the magazine BMG.
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Post by josswinn » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:53 pm

@gjo thanks for the info on Anthony Smith.

@DerekB Thanks for the additional names. I think the criteria for now is whether they learned or have taught classical guitar-making in the UK for any period of time. I'll look up all the names you mention and add them to the list if it looks like this is the case.

Edit: On second thought, I think this is first and foremost a list of classical guitar makers living in the UK, regardless of where they learned the craft. So, someone like Jose Marques, who learned in Portugal and now makes guitars in Suffolk, should be included. Likewise, Stephen Hill seems to have learned the craft in Spain but has taught periodically in Sussex, so he should go on the list. I'm not too concerned about who is on the list or not, it's the relationships between luthiers, the transmission of knowledge and skills, that is of primary interest to me.

Happy to take advice on this! :-)
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