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MikeJay
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Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by MikeJay » Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:01 pm

I found some excellent videos on RH technique
Are those the Alice Artzt videos? They're great IMHO. I learned a lot from them.

You're right. I can't resist pushing the tempo a bit too far on La Cucaracha. It's just too much fun. :)

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Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by James Williams » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:31 am

linda2 wrote:Nice recordings, Mike and James! :bravo:
Lovely to hear such round and full notes, particularly in the first 3 pieces. I think that La Cucaracha has such a catchy tune that there is a tendency to get carried away with the speed and clip a couple of notes in the process. Very hard to resist, I'm sure, and it still sounds good :)
I've got a feeling of going backwards at the moment - I found some excellent videos on RH technique, which I was trying to follow... but then read a whole discussion about bent vs. straight wrist, and am now not so sure where anything should be. I might just record some options and put them out for a vote :!:
Thanks, Linda! La Cucaracha has been a challenge. I just start slowly and make sure the tone is good right from the start, then gradually increase the tempo. Makes things much easier, I think.

I try to keep a straight wrist, to prevent tension. I haven't read up on that subject so I'm not sure of the benefits of a bent wrist. But I've had my days of going backwards, as well, such as yesterday. I could not get the thumb rest stroke from lesson 4. At this point, I sort of have it, but it will be a long time before it's perfected.

Scott_NyLonChaney

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by Scott_NyLonChaney » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:18 am

Finally got my camcorder. I guess I've made it to the digital video age. :)
Pardon the poor lighting quality, I am still learning.
I uploaded the required tunes, plus I did La Cucaracha at about (as near as I can tell) 104 bpm and then again at 144 bpm just to get your thoughts. I wish I'd spent a little more time on these as I was ill last week, so please pardon any flubbed notes. Comments appreciated.
Scotty

[media]https://youtu.be/owU6EJJ3Bvw[/media]

Scott_NyLonChaney

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by Scott_NyLonChaney » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:12 pm

@Mike and Jim - sounds good, to my ears, anyway. :)
James Williams wrote:
linda2 wrote:Nice recordings, Mike and James! :bravo:
Lovely to hear such round and full notes, particularly in the first 3 pieces. I think that La Cucaracha has such a catchy tune that there is a tendency to get carried away with the speed and clip a couple of notes in the process. Very hard to resist, I'm sure, and it still sounds good :)
I've got a feeling of going backwards at the moment - I found some excellent videos on RH technique, which I was trying to follow... but then read a whole discussion about bent vs. straight wrist, and am now not so sure where anything should be. I might just record some options and put them out for a vote :!:
Thanks, Linda! La Cucaracha has been a challenge. I just start slowly and make sure the tone is good right from the start, then gradually increase the tempo. Makes things much easier, I think.

I try to keep a straight wrist, to prevent tension. I haven't read up on that subject so I'm not sure of the benefits of a bent wrist. But I've had my days of going backwards, as well, such as yesterday. I could not get the thumb rest stroke from lesson 4. At this point, I sort of have it, but it will be a long time before it's perfected.
I tried the straight wrist, which from what I've read seems to be the more popular modern technique, mostly due to ergonomics, I think. Problem was, with my nails, I could never keep the "ramped" fingernails long enough without breaking them. I was spending more time manicuring than practicing. :cry: So I went back to the bent wrist. Thing is, they both feel comfortable to me, but with the bent wrist, I can keep my nails rounder and shorter so they don't break as much. Just me.

Robert Goodwin

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by Robert Goodwin » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:00 pm

@Scott,
Very nice. You have good dexterity in your hands. I am still trying to get consistency in pacing. Once in a while my finger sticks on the string. My 'M' finger is the worst. There's a bit of a fleshy tip and it bunches up between the nail and the string, causing it to grab; delaying the release of the string. Because it takes a little more force to pull it off the string, it comes out not only late but too loud.

I did notice that you were playing quite close to the bridge. That can sound a little tinny. Especially over a PC microphone. It is nice for color and variety though.

Scott_NyLonChaney

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by Scott_NyLonChaney » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:31 pm

Thanks, Bob. God, I had a lot of 'takes' on La Cucaracha, haha! I generally don't go for speed, that was an area I over-emphasized as a young-en, and paid for it with a sloppy style. I'm after doing it right and speed will come like M. Delcamp said. But that's such a lively tune, I couldn't resist.
Good catch on the RH position. I'm wasn't doing that on purpose. Even when I tried to get away from the bridge in the later cuts, I didn't get very far away. I need to correct my form/posture to mellow out the sound somewhat. This video business is very instructive. On to lesson four!

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Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by LindaWoodford » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:05 pm

Are those the Alice Artzt videos?
Yes - I think they're great, and immediately identified myself as someone who moves the whole hand instead of the thumb!
I also noticed that I play with very straight fingers, which means my thumb doesn't reach the strings easily (hence the hand movement). Can you really play apoyando with bent fingers? I will have to go and try...
The comment above about nail length is interesting. Mine are very brittle and weak, so any position that reduces the need for long ones is good for me :) I noticed this was the case when practicing the polyphony excercises - which probably puts my right hand in a more optimal position.... hmmm maybe it is beginning to make sense :)
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Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by MikeJay » Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:40 am

Can you really play apoyando with bent fingers?
I think it is almost inevitable that at least the middle finger is somewhat bent -- since it is usually longer than the index finger. If you angle your hand so that you don't have to bend it, you'll never be able to touch the strings with the ring finger. I try to play with fairly straight fingers. I don't see any other way of playing apoyando simultaneously with both thumb and finger on nearby strings.

Jim Stewart

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by Jim Stewart » Fri May 20, 2011 12:18 am

Late is better than never I suppose. I have to spend less time golfing and more time on the guitar. La Cucaracha has defeated me but I will keep trying. Scarborough Fair is enroute.
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Jim Stewart

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by Jim Stewart » Sat May 21, 2011 2:10 pm

La Cucaracha is not in a state that I want to upload it but I am going to keep working on it. My pinkie has a mind of its own at the moment.
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Jim Stewart

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by Jim Stewart » Fri May 27, 2011 2:40 pm

Must be done to meet the exam goals but my pinkie doesn't like the fourth fret.
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PaulSClevenger

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by PaulSClevenger » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:11 am

[media]https://youtu.be/dMj9D7ljwxE[/media]
[media]https://youtu.be/Nj8nrQoEX44[/media]
[media]https://youtu.be/6MqX2apjeH4[/media]
[media]https://youtu.be/-uYXoJP7FW4[/media]

Please let me know your thoughts. :discussion:
Paul Steven Clevenger

JayLee

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by JayLee » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:06 am

Here are my required uploads:

p54 3 - C Major Scale, 2 octaves:
[media]https://youtu.be/y0Qz967QR5E[/media]

p16 - Scarborough Fair
[media]https://youtu.be/zkJLsU21Xi8[/media]

p19 - Good Morning to All
[media]https://youtu.be/bEt2qL89-ss[/media]

p21 - La Cucaracha
[media]https://youtu.be/DR_PwoPrjg0[/media]

And the extras:

p54 2 - G Major Scale
[media]https://youtu.be/xtNkBiwjREE[/media]

p16 - Ah Vous Dirai-Je Maman
[media]https://youtu.be/2IuHdnwcl7k[/media]

p17 - La Bonne Aventure
[media]https://youtu.be/8Bh7AYLNkR8[/media]

p18 - Sur Le Pont Avignon
[media]https://youtu.be/1Bgk1dT7XAA[/media]

p20 - Lo, Nous Marchons Sur Un Etroit Chemin
[media]https://youtu.be/eNoO5_NBe3I[/media]

PaulSClevenger

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by PaulSClevenger » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:03 am

Jay Lee,

Sounds nice and looks good to me (but I'm just beginning). You played 'Good Morning to All' different than the sheet music by playing the first note longer than the second. That's traditionally how I've heard it, but not how it's written. The same with 'La Cucaracha'.

Keep it up!
Paul

JayLee

Re: D01 Classical guitar lesson 3

Post by JayLee » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:13 am

That's my jazz and blues background creeping in: this is called 'swing time'. I.e. Where eighth note (quaver) pairs are played like triplets with the first two tied. Call me a rebel but I like a little swing to interpret music with some 'feel'.

Jay

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