D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Archive of on-line classical guitar lessons from previous years.
Forum rules
The classical guitar lessons are free. They are aimed at the isolated amateur who does not have access to a teacher. To join the class, apply for registration into the students group.

PDF, MP3, Vidéos, Lessons : Level D01 - Level D02 - Level D03 - Level D04 - Level D05 - Level D06 - Level D07 - Level D08 - Level D09 - Level D10 - Level D11 - Level D12.
User avatar
Jean-François Delcamp
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 4555
Joined: Sun May 30, 2004 7:49 pm
Location: Brest, France

D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jean-François Delcamp » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:48 am

Hello everyone,
Please start by downloading the latest version of volume D02.
If you are new to the course, please read this message to familiarize yourself with the conditions for participating in the lessons. You should also read the first message in lesson 1, where you will find advice on how to make the most of your study time and on the methods of practising that I recommend.



First we will study some technical exercises from volume D02.
- page 76 Jean-François DELCAMP (1956) GAMMES - SCALE - SCALES – ESCALAS numbers 12, 13, 14.
When changes of position are needed, you will be using the "position shift" technique. Position I is the left hand position where the index finger (1) is placed behind the 1st fret, position V is the hand position where the index (1) is placed behind the fifth fret, etc. The position shift involves moving the left hand along the neck, from position to position, from fret to fret. In the scales we're looking at today, notice that my first finger never leaves the first string, I use it as a guide for my hand. Position shifts are shown by oblique lines linking two fingering indications given for the same finger.
The following videos are for numbers 12, 13 and 14 on page 76. Concentrate your practice on the passages highlighted in yellow, and do your best to perfect the position shift technique.





Next we'll work on three pieces :
- page 11 Juan BOBROWITZ (1785-1845) DANSE POLONAISE
- page 25 Joseph MEISSONNIER (1790-1855) ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
- page 56 Fernando SOR (1778-1839) ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44 :arrow: http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/v ... f=41&t=670






I ask you first to work on all these exercises and pieces for one week and then to post your recordings on the forum for:
- page 25 Joseph MEISSONNIER (1790-1855) ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
- page 76 number 13 Scale of C major with crescendo and decrescendo
- page 56 Fernando SOR (1778-1839) ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44


Good luck!


I thank Geoff (GeoffB) who has helped in the translation of my lessons into English.


Jean-François

---

Exam qualifying submissions:

ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
Scale of C major
ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44

Beatriz Martin
ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
Scale of C major
ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44

WilliamTee
ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
Scale of C major
ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44

Stefan Srećković
ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
Scale of C major
ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44

Halil Akaydin
ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
Scale of C major
ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44

Laura Staats
ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
Scale of C major
ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44

CarlWestman
ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
Scale of C major
ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44

Satyajit Kadle
ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
Scale of C major
ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44

Haris Karachristianidis
ANDANTE AFFETTUOSO
Scale of C major
ALLEGRETTO N°2 opus 44
:( + ♫ = :)

Stefan Srećković

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Stefan Srećković » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:33 am

Glad we're starting to get some really musical pieces i.e. Danses polonaise! :war:

User avatar
Jacek A. Rochacki
Posts: 1472
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:44 pm
Location: Bydgoszcz, Poland, Europe.

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jacek A. Rochacki » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:39 am

Stefan Srećković wrote:Glad we're starting to get some really musical pieces i.e. Danses polonaise! :war:
By the occassion of "Danses polonaise" by Juan (sic!) Bobrowitz let me here remind what I have already wrote to our Chief Moderator - GeoffB in November, 2013:

…I am as far as possible from "playing" speccialist in musicology, but I wonder if there are some little mistakes with spelling and dates os birth and death of Polish composer and virtuoso guitarrist Jan Nepomucen Bobrowicz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Nepomucen_Bobrowicz‬
In "westernized" manner he is often refered to as Bobrowitz. So I ask myself a question: is it the same person that is mentioned in some posts:
‪search.php?keywords=Juan+Bobrowitz+%3A+Danse+polonaise‬
I have the impression that it would be OK with spelling Bobrowitz, I am not sure about Juan, but, perhaps prof. Delcamp has an access to Bobrowicz/Bobrowitz music editions in Spanish.

If we talk about the same person, then I am afraid that dates of birth and death are incorrect:

at our Delcamp site we read: (1785-1845)
and Wikipedia says:
12 May 1805 – 2 November 1881
As far as I know there was no other Bobrowicz/Bobrowitz….

and few days later I wrote:
…And, perhaps, this Juan instead of Jan (Hans, John) may be an interesting contribution for historians of music editions, perhaps this is a sort of path to some editions of Bobrowicz/Bobrowitz works in Spanish or in Spain ? Bobrowicz/Bobrowitz himself was also an editor in Germany, more info in Wikipedia…

after few days later I received message telling:
…Prof. Delcamp tells me he has now corrected the name and dates in his source files. The correction will appear in the next update of the D02 scores, though it might be some months before the update is issued. He sends you his thanks for pointing out the mistake…

To end with: you are so right, Stefan, using this emoticon showing the flying creature with sabre…like most of his generation (including other Polish guitar virtuosos of that time like Stanisław Szczepanowski), Bobrowicz/Bobrowitz took active part in so called November Uprising 1831, serving as second lieutenant in the formation of horse artillery. He was decorated with Polish highest military order - Virtuti Militari.
Antonio Picado, model 60, 2015, Cedar/IRW. Scale 640 mm.
Antonio Picado, model 62, 2018, Cedar/Madagascar Palosanto. Scale 640 mm. Doble Tapa.

Stefan Srećković

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Stefan Srećković » Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:40 pm

Surprised you've noticed it Jacek! :D

User avatar
Jacek A. Rochacki
Posts: 1472
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:44 pm
Location: Bydgoszcz, Poland, Europe.

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jacek A. Rochacki » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:04 pm

Stefan Srećković wrote:Surprised you've noticed it Jacek! :D
Are you really surprised, Stefan ? you wrote, I/we understood...what is to be surprised about then ? :) I might say: message received and understood :)
Antonio Picado, model 60, 2015, Cedar/IRW. Scale 640 mm.
Antonio Picado, model 62, 2018, Cedar/Madagascar Palosanto. Scale 640 mm. Doble Tapa.

Stefan Srećković

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Stefan Srećković » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:10 pm

Jacek :okok:

Here's Danse Polonaise. Even though it's not an exam requirement I decided to go through it first as I liked the melody quite a bit :casque:
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Satyajit Kadle
Posts: 203
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:30 am

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Satyajit Kadle » Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:54 am

Bravo, Stefan! It's a delightful piece indeed... I wonder if we have any transcribed Chopin pieces for guitar.

Beatriz Martin

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Beatriz Martin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:03 pm

Nice Stefan but I miss your face :)
Wow, these pieces seem harder, don't they?
I wish I could have a Christmas break, I am off for two weeks, need to do Christmas shopping, cook, clean the house and spend time with family and friends :chaud:

User avatar
CarlWestman
Posts: 589
Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:36 pm
Location: Chattanooga, TN

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by CarlWestman » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:15 pm

Nice job, Stefan!

User avatar
Marko Räsänen
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 3821
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:56 am
Location: Finland

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Marko Räsänen » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:27 pm

:bravo: Stefan!

That was very nice! I've noticed you prefer to play things softly, but if you want to take this piece further, notice how JFD uses staccato on beats 2 and 3, varying the pattern all the time. Sometimes beat 2 staccato, and 3 portato or legato, and sometimes the other way round, sometimes both staccato and sometimes neither. I suggest some experimentation with those, and try to make the staccato so sharp that you really hear the difference.

You had very nice rubato, by the way!
Alhambra 4P spruce
Almansa 457 cedar
Cordoba C12 spruce

Beatriz Martin

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Beatriz Martin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:14 pm

Jean-François Delcamp wrote: In the scales we're looking at today, notice that my first finger never leaves the first string, I use it as a guide for my hand.
What does this mean? The index finger is the first, isn't it? Does he mean the pinky 'cause it is the pinky the one I see on the first string?

Beatriz Martin

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Beatriz Martin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:18 pm

Beatriz Martin wrote:
Jean-François Delcamp wrote: In the scales we're looking at today, notice that my first finger never leaves the first string, I use it as a guide for my hand.
What does this mean? The index finger is the first, isn't it? Does he mean the pinky 'cause it is the pinky the one I see on the first string?
Oh never mind, he is talking about leaving the index on the first string when shifting positions :)

Beatriz Martin

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Beatriz Martin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:45 pm

In the Re mineur scale 14 when ascending the Bs are natural and and the Cs are sharp, when ascending the Bs are low and the Cs are natural. Is this right? ...
Somewhere I read when there is a sharp sign you keep on playing sharp all the same notes that follow it until you find the natural sign. If this was right aren't the Cs when descending sharp?

User avatar
CarlWestman
Posts: 589
Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:36 pm
Location: Chattanooga, TN

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by CarlWestman » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:35 am

I could be wrong, but I thought those "accidentals" (when a note played differently than it would be under the key signature) - I thought those only last the measure. That's why the C# at the end of the first line has to be indicated again, even though the prior time there was a C (in the second measure) it was also sharp. Similarly, the B notes during ascension are indicated as natural (also contrary to the key signature).

In descending, there are no accidentals indicated, suggesting to me that the C notes are natural and the B notes are to be played flat.

Again, my memory could be wrong. How does it sound when you play along to the recording?

User avatar
Marko Räsänen
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 3821
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:56 am
Location: Finland

Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Marko Räsänen » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:04 am

Carl is correct.

When sharp or flat signs are in the key signature, they:
- affect the whole piece (or until revoked by a new key signature or accidentals)
- affect all the octaves (in D minor scale all the B's are flat, not just the ones in the middle line of the staff)

The accidentals:
- affect the music only from the point of time they are given until the start of the next bar
- only apply to notes of the exact same pitch (in ascending D minor scale even if the B's and C's of different octaves were found in the same bar, separate accidentals would have to be used), so if you had two B's in the same bar, an octave apart, and the first one had a natural sign in front of it, it would only apply to that first B; the second would still be flat.
- It is also sometimes customary to use 'courtesy accidentals' (sometimes in parenthesis) to indicate the return to key signature, when the bar has changed, and there would be no obligation to do so. It could be, Bea, that you were expecting to see one here, and therefore thought the accidentals would "stick" through the whole scale.

Also, most of the time the scales are written as a single bar, and then accidentals would have to be revoked explicitly. Here the change of bar does that 'automatically', as Carl explained.
Alhambra 4P spruce
Almansa 457 cedar
Cordoba C12 spruce

Return to “Classical guitar lessons archive”