Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by RobMacKillop » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:09 pm

We shall see...

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by Isabelle Frizac » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:27 pm

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by RobMacKillop » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:28 pm

:-)

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by soltirefa » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:36 am

Pretty guitar. How exciting!

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by RobMacKillop » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:52 am

Yup.

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by Richwilly » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:56 pm

Looks fantastic, video asap please!

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by RobMacKillop » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:59 pm

I dare say there'll be a few videos emerging before long...

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by Christopher Langley » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:59 pm

RobMacKillop wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:59 pm
I dare say there'll be a few videos emerging before long...
Eagerly waiting Rob.
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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by RobMacKillop » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:48 pm

One of the tests I'll be carrying out is whether I can easily play the regular six-string repertoire on it. In theory it should be possible, but playing is not theory. We shall see.

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by crazyrach97 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:18 am

Rob, you are NOT helping my self-restraint posting those pics!

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by David Norton » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:55 am

RobMacKillop wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:48 pm
One of the tests I'll be carrying out is whether I can easily play the regular six-string repertoire on it. In theory it should be possible, but playing is not theory. We shall see.
Here's my advice, based on MANY years of playing (playing with?) the 10-string.

ONLY play six-string repertoire on it for several weeks, months, until you are fully comfortable with it. The neck is wider so the angle of your left elbow is perforce altered somewhat. The outcome is that the 3rd string is where your elbow and wrist expect the 1st to be, and the 1st/2nd strings are where "thin air" should be. You've had many years playing lute, so this may not be as big an adaptation for you.

Focus on the six-string repertoire, and learning to damp the resonant basses with the heel/wrist of the right hand. The first recording that Narciso Yepes made with the 10-string (albeit the 3rd one that Deutsche Gramophonn released) was a set of 24 Sor etudes, all played as-written on the basic six strings. He used a custom half-capo* to play in various tonalities, keys such as C# and F# that Sor never composed in, in order to demonstrate the overtone resonances of the basses. (This from Viktor's since-deleted 10-String page).

The 10-string is a beautiful if antagonizing instrument to learn.


*SIDE-NOTE: I saw Yepes play the Bach 999 Prelude in Los Angeles using this half-capo, playing it in A minor and presumably using the H. D. Bruger edition, and capo III to sound in C minor, with use of the open basses as needed.

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by RobMacKillop » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:46 am

Crazy Rachel - oops, I'm sorry! ;-) According to the FedEx website, the guitar should arrive before midday today! I'll take even more pictures of it...just warning you :-)

David, thanks for your advice. I do not know about the half capo. Does anyone manufacture such things?

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by RobMacKillop » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:50 am

Well, it arrived. But here is the photo I never wanted to share...
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There is no evidence on the case or packaging of any trauma. Deeply upset.

I've sent them the photo, and await a reply.

Otherwise the guitar is beautiful, but I don't want to tune it fully to pitch. I tried it a tone below, and despite the 664 string length, and the 1cm wider body size, the guitar seems very easy to play. So disappointing, though.

Edit, I was wrong when I said there was no evidence of drama on the package - I looked at it in low light before, and was upset at the time.
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The crack is on the base of the guitar.
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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by Conall » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:04 am

Oh for goodness sake (I was going to swear....but).

I suppose the most important thing is to check for other possible hidden problems too?

At least it's the side, not the soundboard or neck so once repaired (hopefully easily & "invisibly" enough) it should make no difference to the sound or intonation etc.

I presume the insurance will cover the repair but it's a complete pain anyway. Will you have to send it back (more angst & delay f it)? Or will you be ok to have it repaired locally eg by Colin Morrison or other respected Scottish luthier?

I'll also admit I'm now worried about my own future guitar! Who was the delivery company?

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Re: Photos of 10-string build by Juan Hernandez

Post by RobMacKillop » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:06 am

FedEx. A guy from the Juan Hernandez company has said they will take care of it.

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