Thanks. I considered it (can't see your link but have my own copy). I think you are referring to variations 4 and 5. However, variation 4 is just a pimami sextuplet arpeggio pattern that happens to be over two strings instead of three (for the ami fingers). While it is designed in such a way that the 'mam' part hits the same pitch, it just seems a stretch to call that pimami a tremolo (pattern). Variation 5 is even further away - a pim pattern where p and i are the same pitch.Rasputin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:19 amGreat resource, thanks for putting it together.
Would you count any of the material in Llobet's variations on a theme by Sor / the folias as tremolo? I'm thinking of the sections starting in bars 54 and 70 [url=http://www.*** Site blocked for copyright reasons ***[/url].
No. While it might be called a tremolo fantasy (sometimes), the sum total of the tremolo is 3 bars of pami (or pimi if you want to be a lute purist) where the sustained "melody" is a single pitch - open string high e. It is just too trivial. Also, as Eric Crouch points out, it would have been played a bit slower than guitar tremolo.
They are both on the list already
Thank you Mark. Yes, I think you are right. My thinking about the criteria for inclusion evolved as I was getting deeper into the list. The Carcassi (more than one study) was historically mentioned frequently, and was chronologically one of the first ones to be included as I started working off of the pamilearner list. I probably did not re-check carefully, once I was through, whether all are still justified. I am also now suspicions of the Koshkin entry - if 80 at 4 per click is the correct tempo, that would not really be a functional tremolo effect musically even if the pattern may be the same mechanically.Mark Clifton-Gaultier wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:20 amThanks for your hard work on this subject - this will be a handy reference.
One point - I don't think that the Carcassi should be included - except perhaps in an addendum i.e. "Works that may be used to cultivate the pami mechanism."
Musically its intent is far removed from the effect of tremolo despite the (erroneous) fingering often attached.
Sorry - I should have looked harderThey are both on the list already
Well done on your initiative in compiling this list.guitarrista wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 6:48 pmHi all,
Over the last few months I got curious about finding classical guitar tremolo pieces, after some discussion about way too few tremolo pieces being in regular circulation by concert (or other) guitarists.
I ended up compiling a list of more than 100 pieces, which I thought would be of general interest to forum members.
Stephen has written several tremolo guitar solo pieces. Two that I know of are "LarkSong" and "Canzonetta" both published by Jacaranda music.