Well - deleting your original question has made all the following answers quite mysterious to anyone reading the thread. Up to you of course but the board is more helpful to others if the queries and replies are kept intact.CarbonElitist wrote:And I have another question.
The time signature has in fact changed - youmust have missed it somewhere earlier.CarbonElitist wrote:How do I count these measures? The time signature is 4/4 and as far as I can tell, it does not change.
Ideally you would learn to hear the two rhythmic subdivisions simultaneously but separately. A couple of sessions with a knowledgable music teacher (of any instrument) would obviously be a good idea, but a short cut may be to follow these examples from Wiki:CarbonElitist wrote:I'm afraid I quit formal lessons a bit early. I never got to tackle complex voices and grouped notes like this.
Is this an example of hemiola? (That I noticed you mention in another thread).Mark Clifton-Gaultier wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:49 am
The situation is a bit complicated however as the latter two bars in your snippet are written polyrhythmically - more than one meter at the same time. The upper voice continues in 6/8 whilst the lower one (through the use of duplets) temporarily switches to 2/4.
Check out Sam Griffin on YouTube. He is a talented classical guitarist that transcribes melodies from very geeky subjects. This is his transcription of Streets of Rabanastre from Final Fantasy 12.
I wouldn't be surprised if he does. He's done Chrono Trigger, Ocarina of Time, and several other old-school games.
No. Hemiola is a temporary shifting of the pulse so that it sounds (for instance) as though a measure of 3/2 has been inserted into a sequence written in 3/4: The above is taken from Turina's Soleares.Smudger wrote:Is this an example of hemiola?
So you have something that looks like it should be 6/8 time signature. In any case, it has 6 8ths worth of duration per measure, so it is impossible to be 4/4. What is probably confusing is that it uses duplets in the lower voice. These are like triplets, but the reverse - two notes of equal length in the space of three.
So computer games really are becoming the cutting edge of art. Leading actors being used in the cut scenes for some games which are becoming like interactive film. And now they are the source of the folk music of the day. Why ask if CG players should compose when they are some many new game themes to arrange!!
Thanks for that. Only today, I've glanced at the wikipedia definition and it mentioned the Vertical hemiola: sesquialtera which 'seemed' to strike a resemblance to Carbon's example which is why I asked the question. But maybe I didn't read the wiki article correctly or it's an example, as you say, of an incorrect definition of hemiola. I'll get back to it....Mark Clifton-Gaultier wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:11 pmNo. Hemiola is a temporary shifting of the pulse so that it sounds (for instance) as though a measure of 3/2 has been inserted into a sequence written in 3/4:Smudger wrote:Is this an example of hemiola?
The above is taken from Turina's Soleares.
However - the terminology is very commonly misunderstood and may even be irrevocably changed (language evolves). The commonly heard meter change between 6/8 and 3/4 as heard in latin music e.g. I want to, live in A, me , ri , ca is often described as hemiola - it is not.
Similarly, polyrhythms are sometimes incorrectly labelled as such - even in dictionaries.