Trigger Finger

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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by hilm3g » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:29 pm

Yisrael van Handel wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:45 am
Wow. Great thread. I also have trigger finger (left-hand 1st finger). My conclusions from this thread:
  • Trigger finger is a professional hazard of guitarists (and climbers and farmers—anyone who forcibly flexes a finger)
  • If you have diabetes, you have much greater risk.
  • Trigger finger does not go away by itself (thank you for removing this illusion).
  • Exercise does not help (thank you for removing this illusion).
  • Get cortisone injection early (not what I wanted to hear, but accepted).
  • You may have to resort to surgery (not what I wanted to hear, but accepted).
Yes, good summary. Very mild, occasional stretches help me. Also anti-inflammatory diet. I only use NSAIDs when the pain is too much. Bad for liver or kidneys, depending on which one you choose.

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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by Rick Beauregard » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:35 pm

Less than 20 hours after trigger finger surgery on my m finger and recovering. The outpatient procedure was more involved than I expected, and the “mild sedative” they gave me put me out for 10 minutes, but otherwise it was not bad. Today the numbness has worn off and there is mild pain but only about a 2/10 with no pain meds yet. Almost full movement. The doc told me to wiggle my fingers. The soft bandage comes off tomorrow. Stitches out in 10 days. My fingers are still a little numb.

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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by beanctr » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:55 pm

You will be glad you did it. Rick
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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by Brian99 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:09 pm

I have the same problem, middle finger, right hand..
had an injection 2 years ago, but has not really helped...

I would be interested in hearing more about the 'anti-inflammatory diet' to see if that may improve the situation, before going to surgery..

thanks
Brian

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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by hilm3g » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:06 pm

Anti-inflammatory diet I follow is pretty basic:

I eat:
tomatoes
olive oil
green leafy vegetables, such as spinach, kale, and collards
nuts like almonds and walnuts
fatty fish like salmon, mackerel, tuna, and sardines
berries - strawberries, blueberries, blackberries, also cherries

I avoid:
refined carbohydrates
fried foods
anything with sugar
processed meats
margarine or vegetable oils other than olive oil
almost everything in a box or processed

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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by Brian99 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:19 pm

interesting, thanks!

I'm pretty much there with a similar diet, but I probably need to cut down on the sugary treats!
Brian

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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by hilm3g » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:36 am

Let me add turmeric to the list of anti-inflammatory agents. Some give it magical properties. I think it helps, but it is not a panacea.

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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by Uriel Garcia » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:30 am

I had trigger finger issues not too long ago, I received two cortisone shots on my palm towards the end of 2018. It eased the issue but did not resolve it, just two weeks ago I finally went in for the corrective surgery on my right hand since the symptom was occurring more frequently.
I too had been taken NSAID's daily, I am starting to not take them as often.
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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by Rick Beauregard » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:28 pm

Uriel Garcia wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:30 am
I had trigger finger issues not too long ago, I received two cortisone shots on my palm towards the end of 2018. It eased the issue but did not resolve it, just two weeks ago I finally went in for the corrective surgery on my right hand since the symptom was occurring more frequently.
I too had been taken NSAID's daily, I am starting to not take them as often.
Tell us more about your recovery from the surgery.
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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by VasquezBob » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:35 pm

A couple of suggestions that were passed on to me are: 1) use the word "nutrition" instead of diet as it's a better guide, and 2) when you shop for groceries, purchase items from around the perimeter of the store and tend to avoid the center of the store, as that is where processed foods hide. Check your grocery store to see how it is laid out. Just passing these suggestions on...

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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by Rick Beauregard » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:40 pm

This was taken about three weeks after surgery. The incision is almost healed and I have complete motion. The fingers are still a little stiff though.

Today the wound is completely healed but a bit sore underneath and fingers still stiff. I’m stretching and exercising them. Playing is no problem.
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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by Peter Lovett » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:44 am

Rick Beauregard wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:40 pm
This was taken about three weeks after surgery. The incision is almost healed and I have complete motion. The fingers are still a little stiff though.

Today the wound is completely healed but a bit sore underneath and fingers still stiff. I’m stretching and exercising them. Playing is no problem.

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Thanks for the update Rick. I was interested to note that if you shifted the scar to the same place relative to the index finger, albeit left hand, then it would be exactly where my problem occurred. It would seem that the damage to the ligament is occurring in the hand and not in the finger.
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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by MessyTendon » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:29 am

Get yourself a De-Royal splint...you can order them online...measure your finger and use the darn thing religiously...Don't let the scar tissue heal up over any tendons or you'll end up like me...I'm in permanent contracture now. It was not a natural contracture, but a result of being left in a splint too long.

If you use a splint to stretch the finger when not in use, it's more likely to stay that way. Scar tissue does what it wants, keep ahead of it.

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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by VasquezBob » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:43 am

Good News: I've been practicing for the last four days; not long practices but, steadily getting longer. I'm up to 15 minutes and I'm not pushing it. All the suggestions, above, are working and thank you all. My "trigger thumbs" are fading and that one cortisone shot between my thumb and index finger helped a lot. Lastly, I know that the gentle exercising, icing, massage, etc., have all helped me.

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Re: Trigger Finger

Post by dory » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:44 am

A word of encouragement. I had trigger finger and it went away on its own with no treatment. It must not have been very severe. Question: Can you have cortisone shots with diabetes? I thought cortisone made diabetes way worse. A friend of mine got cortisone for her asthma and had to go on insulin from oral medication. Or is that only oral cortisone?
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