petermc61 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:14 am
Wuuthrad wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:00 am
Since the Americas have created most of the worlds most popular musical genres for the better part of a century....
Also, from what I've noticed, arrogance, and the superiority complex that often goes along with it, isn't limited to any specific genre of music or any particular nationality.
I’ve placed these two posts together, just for the delicious irony.
Coincidence really, but it is true. Name a genre of popular music that isn't American in origin with as much global popularity as rock, rock n' roll, blues, jazz, soul, r&b, punk, electronic, techno, house, hip hop, bluegrass or folk? Maybe metal is British, but metal has its roots in rock and blues. And there are arrogant musicians in all genres- I am not one of them by any means! (Look to the OP for that example)
Perhaps this is why, if we were to assume the premise of this topic is true, and I don't believe it is, but for the sake of argument let's say 'Americans aren't as good as the rest of the world at Classical,' because maybe they are better at creating original music as opposed to re-creating someone else's music? After all most people do love a good song, and love to dance! So maybe the focus in America is on popular music more than music of Academia? But of course this is bollocks as there is great music from all over the world in whatever genre suits your fancy, and that's a wonderful thing!
Rognvald, are you seruously comparing human being's artistic achievements to an agricultural commodity?
Please give us examples of all these awful American classical musicians, who according to you can't even hold a candle to a good cup of coffee!
So here's the grade school explanation for you, since you seem unable or unwilling to handle intellectual argument and played the 'you called me names' card when this claim is not true at all. Stereotypical is defined as an over generalized belief about a particular category of people. Bigoted is defined as having or revealing an obstinate belief in the superiority of one's own opinions. Also if you were to call me ignorant, I would never take that personal, as there are many things I am ignorant of! (Especially in this regard- your false dichotomy between unnamed Americans and your favorite guitarists from other countries.)
Again; please, for the sake of your own argument- who are these awful Americans?
And you didn't say this is about cultural differences, you plainly stated that Americans arent as good as the rest of the world at classical music. That's not about culture, that's an assumption based on nationality, which is absolutely absurd! After all, America is comprised of many diverse and varied cultures, all worth celebrating and appreciating. But if you meant something else and wont give examples, it's not a valid argument.
So here are a few of my examples:
I am and will ever be grateful to my first teacher who I absolutely admired and who totally inspired me, and also to these other Totally Awesome American Artists:
Christopher Parkening, Andrew York, Dusan Bogdonavic, Gohar Vardanyan, Ana Vidovic, Mel Bay, Jason Vieaux, Eliot Fisk, Adam Holzman, Lily Afshar, and many other citizens of the USA who play Classical Guitar, as well as other people from all over the world! Special shout out to my childhood buddy Mischeaux who was actually quite a bit better then Django, but sadly his gift went unnoticed- he was really never in the right place at the right time...
But did you mean USA?
Because if wer'e to discuss America, certainly we should be talking about a lot more artists- from North, Central and South America!
"Pay no attention to what the critics say. A statue has never been erected in honor of a critic." -Jean Sibelius