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Post by Frousse » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:52 am

If It were a piece of short length (that I played often), I would worry. To be more specific, if I played "Adelita" often, I would worry if I could not remember it. I am speaking only for myself. However, if one is happy reading the sheet music, that is also fine. Memorizing a piece gives me more freedom. I don't have to have the sheet music to perform.

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Post by markodarko » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:18 am

Personally I would be a little disappointed if I saw a concerto or a recital where someone played from music - regardless of their renown. If you don't know the piece, then how can you know the piece?

As a tutti player in an orchestra then this is acceptable as you as an individual are part of a team that must work together as the conductor intends so personal expression within the piece is limited to what you're told to do, not what you want to express.

As a soloist this is not, and should not be the case.

Playing from music makes you the performer nothing more than an interface for the written notes. I aspire to be more than an interface.
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Post by Mick the Ramirez Man » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:34 am

The ability to memorize a piece of music is no different than any other musical skill that we bring to the table. It needs to be there. And, if we are struggling with it, we need to work on it until it's just another rudimentary musical skill.

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Post by bear » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:46 am

Life is too short to worry about trivial things. If you are lucky, you will reach an age where you have forgotten more than you can remember.
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" -How Do You Memorize An Entire Symphony?" -

Post by oski79 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:14 pm

Here, from the BBC: http://m.bbc.com/news/magazine-32428022

Article by neuroscientist Jessica Grahn on the eve of the Aurora Symphony performing Beethoven's Pastorale Symphony without printed scores. And to think, it sometimes takes me a week to memorize an eight bar phrase...
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Post by RoryJohn » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:34 pm

thanks, very interesting read...also never knew Liszt had such a great haircut
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Post by Pat Dodson » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:56 pm

That's a great article. I'm not surprised that the orchestra's musicians can memorise their parts; many musicians memorise such volume. What I wonder though is why they want to do it (assuming it's not just a gimmick or challenge.) They are not all soloists bringing their interpretations nor a quartet or jazz group feeding off each other. They will surely be much more constrained. Or will the freedom to focus more on the conductor make a difference and bring something extra in expression ? It'll be interesting to see the reviews.

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Post by Linda » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:28 pm

bear wrote:Life is too short to worry about trivial things. If you are lucky, you will reach an age where you have forgotten more than you can remember.
Love that bear :)

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Post by pogmoor » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:55 pm

This item from the BBC, http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32428022 was evidently so popular that it sparked three forum threads. These three threads are now amalgamated here.
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Post by bear » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:48 pm

"How do you memorize an entire symphony?" ....become a pianist
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Post by RoryJohn » Fri May 01, 2015 10:30 am

I usually just write the score on my forearm and sneak a peek when the conductor is adjusting his cumerbund.

EDIT: or her cumerbund
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Post by rikart » Wed May 13, 2015 7:54 am

I can do that. Oh wait, you mean the notes?
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Post by mc1 » Wed May 13, 2015 12:49 pm

"ah, well, i don't want to give you the impression it's just a matter of the number of notes...um...i mean, getting them in the right order is just as important. old peter hall used to say to me, 'they're all there eddie, now we've got to get them in the right order.'"

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Re: " -How Do You Memorize An Entire Symphony?" -

Post by Iain » Fri May 29, 2015 8:03 pm

I play the piece one small section at a time over and over until i have memorized that part.
Carry on doing the same with the rest of the piece and before you can say Jack Robertson,
you have memorized the music.

Well, maybe a wee bit longer than that.

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