Viennese (Staufer) Neck Joint...

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Viennese (Staufer) Neck Joint...

Post by Scot Tremblay » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:44 am

People often ask me what the 19th century Viennese neck to heel joint looks like under all the black varnish. So, in the interest of furthering luthier education and full disclosure I thought I'd share a photo from a recent restoration... :shock:
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Re: Viennese (Staufer) Neck Joint...

Post by RoryJohn » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:05 am

Is that the back of a chair?
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Post by doug » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:26 am

It would take a fair amount of skill, and quite a bit of time, to do a joint like that.
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Post by markodarko » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:24 pm

RoryJohn wrote:Is that the back of a chair?
Ha! Took the words right out of my virtual mouth.
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Post by Pat Dodson » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:12 pm

RoryJohn wrote:Is that the back of a chair?
To me it looks more like the steps down to the beach. Happy days. :)

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Re: Viennese (Staufer) Neck Joint...

Post by RoryJohn » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:47 pm

Pat Dodson wrote: To me it looks more like the steps down to the beach. Happy days. :)
The wood does look very seasoned... :oops:
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RoryJohn wrote:Is that the back of a chair?
Ha! Took the words right out of my virtual mouth.
Soon, I shall take your virtual teeth...Soon... :twisted:

EDIT: Sorry for Pillorying your post Scot.
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Post by Scot Tremblay » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:02 pm

RoryJohn wrote:.... Sorry for Pillorying your post Scot.
That's a good one Rory! :lol:
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Post by markodarko » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:16 pm

RoryJohn wrote:Soon, I shall take your virtual teeth...Soon... :twisted:
Not if I take them first. Ha!

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Post by Catire » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:25 pm

while I'm impressed by the joinery, I'm puzzled by how this fits in.
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Post by Scot Tremblay » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:18 pm

Catire wrote:while I'm impressed by the joinery, I'm puzzled by how this fits in.
How this fits in to a guitar forum? I suppose it doesn't, that's why I posted it in the Cafe. And my title was just an eye catcher...but I do get asked quite regularly how Stauffer did the Viennese joint for the neck to heel...well, there isn't one, the neck and heel on these instruments is made from one piece of wood, sometimes the part that floats over the body is an added piece but just as often not.

The photo above is supposedly an abstract from an old chair found in a village on the Mediterranean. The joinery was designed to fit the various pieces together with no glue or fasteners. Judging by the apparent age of the chair, it was very successful.

I just thought it was interesting and might bring some amusement to fellow woodworking aficionados on a sunny Thursday afternoon.... :bye:
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Re: Viennese (Staufer) Neck Joint...

Post by Pat Dodson » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:05 pm

Kudos to RoryJohn!

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Post by Catire » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:11 pm

Scot Tremblay wrote:
Catire wrote:while I'm impressed by the joinery, I'm puzzled by how this fits in.
How this fits in to a guitar forum? I suppose it doesn't, that's why I posted it in the Cafe. And my title was just an eye catcher...but I do get asked quite regularly how Stauffer did the Viennese joint for the neck to heel...well, there isn't one, the neck and heel on these instruments is made from one piece of wood, sometimes the part that floats over the body is an added piece but just as often not.

The photo above is supposedly an abstract from an old chair found in a village on the Mediterranean. The joinery was designed to fit the various pieces together with no glue or fasteners. Judging by the apparent age of the chair, it was very successful.

I just thought it was interesting and might bring some amusement to fellow woodworking aficionados on a sunny Thursday afternoon.... :bye:
No. Actually, I'm confused on how it fits on the guitar. I'd like to see a wider angled photo.
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Re: Viennese (Staufer) Neck Joint...

Post by Bill B » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:50 pm

That joint is a work of art in itself, regardless of its function. Beautiful.
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Re: Viennese (Staufer) Neck Joint...

Post by Pat Dodson » Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:25 pm

Catire wrote:
Scot Tremblay wrote:
Catire wrote:while I'm impressed by the joinery, I'm puzzled by how this fits in.
How this fits in to a guitar forum? I suppose it doesn't, that's why I posted it in the Cafe. And my title was just an eye catcher...but I do get asked quite regularly how Stauffer did the Viennese joint for the neck to heel...well, there isn't one, the neck and heel on these instruments is made from one piece of wood, sometimes the part that floats over the body is an added piece but just as often not.

The photo above is supposedly an abstract from an old chair found in a village on the Mediterranean. The joinery was designed to fit the various pieces together with no glue or fasteners. Judging by the apparent age of the chair, it was very successful.

I just thought it was interesting and might bring some amusement to fellow woodworking aficionados on a sunny Thursday afternoon.... :bye:
No. Actually, I'm confused on how it fits on the guitar. I'd like to see a wider angled photo.
Yes initially I was confused too. Thing is, it's not from a guitar but, as Scot says above, probably from a chair. Scot explains it all above. Tricky!

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