Irina Kulikova

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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by Tonit » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:18 am

O BTW I agree with her about "piano" (not the instrument) that she likes the best out of guitar playing. I happened to remember this remark that lingers in me. Piano and lower dynamics makes us a philosoper. KInd of IMPO.

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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by SteveL123 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:20 am

Tonit wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:18 am
O BTW I agree with her about "piano" (not the instrument) that she likes the best out of guitar playing. I happened to remember this remark that lingers in me. Piano and lower dynamics makes us a philosoper. KInd of IMPO.
Where does she talk about that? I love her playing! Just came across this short clip of Allegro Solemne on her FB page . https://www.facebook.com/Halkidonioodio ... 256396447/

Never heard anyone play it so fast (is she competing with Barrios recording? lol) and CLEAN! Amazing technique. Wish she'd played it a little slower so I can hear the notes.

edit: Just noticed her left hand unorthodox fingering (compared to most other guitartists). Check out 0:05 onwards. She does a shift mid phrase from 4th position down to 2nd when every other guitarist I've seen stay in 4th, from there she use some other fingering that I can't figure out yet.

Does anyone have her US touring schedule? I looked but was unable to find it.

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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by Tonit » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:05 pm

SteveL123:




To be precise she says "the most beautiful sound" of her instrument is "pianissimo".
While I got real loud playing flamenco, oftentimes I find quieter dynamics attract more audience attention, like hammaring on (lol) to pp or otherwise. I as a player also like p to pp tone quality more often. Cheers.

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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by Rognvald » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:41 pm

In general, there are some fine artists coming from Eastern Europe. I will opine that there is a sensitivity, emotion, and depth from this "school" that is lacking in many mainstream American and European "artists." Irina is a musician. She has technical and emotional control of the guitar and has the ability to tell a story. What else could anyone want? Playing again . . . Rognvald
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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by Tonit » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:16 pm

Hi Rognvald,
Rognvald wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:41 pm
In general, there are some fine artists coming from Eastern Europe. I will opine that there is a sensitivity, emotion, and depth from this "school" that is lacking in many mainstream American and European "artists." Irina is a musician. She has technical and emotional control of the guitar and has the ability to tell a story. What else could anyone want? Playing again . . . Rognvald
I agree after having spent a longer stretch. While I must say jazz and pop may be better in US for me, classical (ie traditional ensembles, plural) here is quite something. Not being a specialist in any classical, still I have seen there are yet several kinds of schools when it comes to orchestra. I think two mainstreams are Russian and German here. German is quite delicate whereas Russian is about power, like majestic communist architecture, and more about loudness than anything else. Russian might be Italian, which I am so unsure... I may be wrong but having heared (and played with) a few classical ensembles, these two are quite obvious IMPO. Irina might be leaning more towards German based on this criteria...

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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by eno » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:47 pm

IMHO she is one of the finest but underappreciated CG players on the planet these days.
By the way, she plays on Simon Marty guitar - you can see that at 6:15-6-20 of the above video.
Tonit wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:16 pm
German is quite delicate whereas Russian is about power, like majestic communist architecture, and more about loudness than anything else. Russian might be Italian, which I am so unsure... I may be wrong but having heared (and played with) a few classical ensembles, these two are quite obvious IMPO. Irina might be leaning more towards German based on this criteria...
That might be true about Russian mass culture but not necessarily about Russian classical music school. There are a lot of finest Russian classical musicians with quite delicate playing style, take Rostropovitch or Richter for example.
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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by Tonit » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:00 am

eno wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:47 pm
IMHO she is one of the finest but underappreciated CG players on the planet these days.
Right.
That might be true about Russian mass culture but not necessarily about Russian classical music school. There are a lot of finest Russian classical musicians with quite delicate playing style, take Rostropovitch or Richter for example.
Also right. My opinion is simply beating around the bush after seeing orchestra performances here, and there are seemingly two schools (I am not definitively saying Russian or else, but simply two different schools), and it is also seemingly that the more delicate one can be fairly associated with Germany while the other one is more of Russia. And its basis is difficult to explain, but for example, a Ukrainian military orchestra was quite loud, and behind the orchestra is supposedly a culture that has long been passed on since the Soviet time (which is shared with Russia), and so on and so forth. Berlin PH also came around that was significantly different compared to the military orchestra. There are many free concert serieses and I saw orchestras from many cities across Europe, and they are quite different from each other, but quite roughly two different schools, louder ones and quieter ones regardless of their different sizes. And as I noted, I am not so sure about the louder one being Russian, as it might be Italian or else, and the conductors also significantly contribute to the loudness and other sonic characteristics.
My remark is something like I have a darker shade of skin than average Ukrainians, and it is seemingly because I am one of Japanese who also have a little darker shades of skin color but there are some Japanese with lighter shades. But we never know, I might be a Spanish Arabesque :D or something like that.
I know I should not be stereotyping before American audience, but the fact of the matter is, there are statistical differences regionally or culturelly or otherwise that could help us appreciating the different beauties.

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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by Tonit » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:16 am

I apologize for two consecutive posts, but I should note one thing.

About the dynamics, p sounds p only because also there are mp, pp, mfs, fs, ffs and other dynamics.

So, it is always a set deal.

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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by David Gutowski » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:29 am

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This is as good as it gets. Exquisite playing. And the guitar sounds as good as it gets too.

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What do you think the guitar sold for?

Maybe $250,000?
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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by Rognvald » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:09 pm

"I know I should not be stereotyping before American audience, but the fact of the matter is, there are statistical differences regionally or culturelly or otherwise that could help us appreciating the different beauties." Tonit


Tonit,
This is not stereotyping but rather a true representation of reality. However, in our pablum induced mentality of the Y2K, we are told to believe that all people and cultures are the same . . . the rankest deception of reality promulgated by socio-hipsters around the planet. I agree with your above statement. Playing again . . . Rognvald
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Re: Irina Kulikova

Post by Tonit » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:48 am

Hi Rognvald,
Rognvald wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:09 pm
This is not stereotyping but rather a true representation of reality. However, in our pablum induced mentality of the Y2K, we are told to believe that all people and cultures are the same . . . the rankest deception of reality promulgated by socio-hipsters around the planet. I agree with your above statement.
It looks like globalization today is facing roadblocks (nationalism rise, Brexit...I don't want get too political but it's hanging right in front of my head for a while), so that those flower children may soon stink less.
Having long been in globalization sector, I have noticed wherever we go our needs are more or less the same (ie we have to sleep, eat, work, have a little fun...), but we just do in so many different ways that are difficult to understand every now and then. This diversified difference in approaching our common human needs tricks us out oftentimes IMPO, and that's where I cash in after all.

What's fascinating about music in turn is that, we speak the same language. but we are representing so many different concepts that we can also understand.

Cheers,

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