Insane right hand technique

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Insane right hand technique

Post by guit-box » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:42 pm

I've been following this free weekly technique lesson on Tonebase. This one contains some insane technique where Artyom Dervoed does tremolo with single fingers. (not the tremolo you're thinking) If that wasn't impressive enough he can also do this with thumb and index at the same time. Wowl

https://tonebase.co/courses/artyom-derv ... exercise-9
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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by Terpfan » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:03 pm

I can't see the video. I've heard Yamashita played tremolo with c

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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by guit-box » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:26 pm

Terpfan wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:03 pm
I can't see the video. I've heard Yamashita played tremolo with c
You might have to register with email. It's free. It's not that kind of tremolo, it's back and forth tremolo on one string with one finger.
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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by Terpfan » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:39 am

guit-box wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:26 pm
Terpfan wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:03 pm
I can't see the video. I've heard Yamashita played tremolo with c
You might have to register with email. It's free. It's not that kind of tremolo, it's back and forth tremolo on one string with one finger.
That what I heard Yamashita doing tremolo with c only.

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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by Mark Clifton-Gaultier » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:17 am

Terpfan is correct - Yamashita has used the same technique, also Stepan Rak and one of the Latin American crowd whose name is just on the tip of my tongue - maybe Caballero ... ?

I tried working on it for a while but came to the conclusion that one's nails need to be exactly right for the job - it's not something I'll particularly be pursuing again although, for some reason, I realise that it's still the way I play the tremolando in Yocoh's Sakura intro. I must have been working on that at the same time - illustrates how thoughtless habits can develop so easily.

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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by guit-box » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:05 pm

Mark Clifton-Gaultier wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:17 am
Terpfan is correct - Yamashita has used the same technique, also Stepan Rak and one of the Latin American crowd whose name is just on the tip of my tongue - maybe Caballero ... ?

I tried working on it for a while but came to the conclusion that one's nails need to be exactly right for the job - it's not something I'll particularly be pursuing again although, for some reason, I realise that it's still the way I play the tremolando in Yocoh's Sakura intro. I must have been working on that at the same time - illustrates how thoughtless habits can develop so easily.
That's correct, Caballero also does it in the same piece as Yamashita. You can watch both on youtube. This video, however, is not about a technique you'd use in a piece, it's about strength and coordination of the right hand fingers and finger joints. There's a point towards the end of the video where he actually does the technique with finger/thumb simultaneously (the insane part). I can do it with my ima fingers one at a time okay and slower with p. But I have no coordination for doing thumb and index together. I'm not sure, but I don't think any of the other guitarists mentioned here are doing the technique with thumb and finger.

Also, he talks about how all joints move but with the thumb he uses mostly the tip joint and with the fingers he uses mostly the middle joint. It brings up how, contrary to popular belief, the thumb can work quite well from the tip joint and the fingers can move quite efficiently from the middle joint (in conjunction with the other joints, of course). You should be able to click on the video link within the web page link and view it without a Tonebase membership. If not, you can email them and join to be on the email list to get weekly technique tips for free from this series. Disclaimer: I'm in no way affiliated with Tonebase.

Click button that says "click to watch exercise #9"
https://tonebase.co/courses/artyom-derv ... exercise-9
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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by Mark Clifton-Gaultier » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:24 pm

guit-box wrote:Click button that says "click to watch exercise #9"
https://tonebase.co/courses/artyom-derv ... exercise-9
Tried that Guitbox - the site continues to ask me to sign up - won't be doing so.

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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by guit-box » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:40 pm

Mark Clifton-Gaultier wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:24 pm
guit-box wrote:Click button that says "click to watch exercise #9"
https://tonebase.co/courses/artyom-derv ... exercise-9
Tried that Guitbox - the site continues to ask me to sign up - won't be doing so.
Tonebase costs a monthly fee, but this email series is free, but you still may have to sign up for the emails. I canceled my Tonebase membership months ago but these vids were still free.

Maybe this link works for direct access?
https://tonebase.co/courses/artyom-derv ... son-update
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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by Tony Hyman » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:58 pm

Nope! No cigar.Can't get in.Maybe its only the meant for the "insane".

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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by guit-box » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:07 pm

Tony Hyman wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:58 pm
Nope! No cigar.Can't get in.Maybe its only the meant for the "insane".
Oh well, I tried, I guess people are on their own. It can't be that hard to join a mailing list.
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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by ronjazz » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:59 pm

worked for me, and a very interesting addition to dystonia exercises, I bet!
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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by guit-box » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:00 pm

ronjazz wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:59 pm
worked for me, and a very interesting addition to dystonia exercises, I bet!
Ahh, great. Yes, Artyom Dervoed must have some seriously developed flexors and extensors.
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Re: Insane right hand technique

Post by DaveLloyd » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:17 am

In his "How to Master the Trmolo Part 4 of 4" Doug Niedt discusses The American Virtuoso William Foden (1860-1947) and his extraordinary feats of tremolo playing with one finger, two fingers, three fingers, and, four fingers!

Although I'm a Tonebase subscriber, and I'm also subscribed to the Artyom Dervoed email series, I haven't seen that video yet. Must have missed it somehow! Late now, I'll watch it tomorrow.

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