Jeremy wrote:To quote Hector Quine in his book 'Guitar Technique':
'But beware also of wasting time over finger exercises away from the guitar; these are useless for developing dexterity. You learn only what you practice, and finger gymnastics which have no direct relevance to actual playing improve nothing but your ability to perform finger gymnastics!'
Even though the latter part of Orosz focuses on rhythm more-so than finger movement - I don't see either Orosz or Sakari too much as teaching how to play the guitar or even to be a musician. I think either one is intended to improve finger flexibility, control, independence, and accuracy. The main difference is Sakari intends to teach the fingers to behave well specifically on the guitar.
The main thing I am after is training my hand to behave as five individual fingers rather than a fist. At best, I am hoping to develop better tools, so that when playing guitar they will be more responsive to to my brain with the result of fewer mis-fires, so to speak.
The appealing thing about Orosz, is that it will not take time away from guitar and hopefully improve finger dexterity and control, which at my age I see as a positive whether playing guitar or not. At the $29.75 price (which I haven't spent yet), it seems something fun to experiment with, and if I do not like it I can just consider it a throw-away at that price. Who know, maybe I will still s*ck at guitar but end up with killer typing skills

. At my age, it becomes a matter of use it or lose it as far as finger dexterity. I think this could be a good thing in that regard if nothing else.
Not to change the Thread, but have tried the first few days of Sakari's free lessons. His method for fingernail shaping is working great. Though the shape is a bit different than I had learned and been using from Scott Tennant, I have tone on all six strings like I have never had before, particularly for i and m with good solid tone and no scratching on the wound strings.
Not expecting to convince anyone of anything. And particularly not in the mood to do the duck and cover

. Just felt like adding my thoughts for whatever they may be worth.
Thanks - Jim