Tennis Elbow

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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by licaptn » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:23 am

segoviajr07 wrote:I've still got my issue, doc says a shot of cortisone will cure it, but I am reluctant to do that, mostly because I know it will mean a few days without playing.
Aleve seems to work better for me than Advil, that's what doc suggested as well. I haven't done any ice, just wear the brace when I play. If I wear the brace all the time and take the Aleve daily it seems to help a lot, but I hate wearing that brace around all the time.

That's where I am, probably gonna bite the bullet and get the shot soon, will report back.
Often, cortisone gets rid of the inflammation. Icing does the same thing. I had a cortisone shot in the elbow and it increased the pain immensely for several days -- I think the doctor hit a nerve or something. I believe the brace does more good than anything. At least, it works for me during golf season. I dreaded the thought of practicing yesterday. But I wore the brace and after an hour of playing I had no incremental pain. A friend of mine is an avid tennis player. Years ago a bad case of tennis elbow nearly ended his playing. After a period of rest and icing, he tried the brace. Now he plays four days a week, all year round, always with the brace and he has no pain. He won't play without it.

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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by drgoretex » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:31 pm

Now 10 months since I put the guitar aside. Elbow feels great for any normal activity. Still slightly tender to firm massage of the lateral epicondyle, but that may never go away. My hand injury is much improved, and so I started working on the guitar a few days ago. Only fifteen minutes at a time, planning to work very gently up to more significant practice. However, even after a mere 15 minutes of practice, and even after 10 months of healing, the elbow still gets rather sore. Will try using the brace with these brief practices, and see how that goes.

Ken

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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by licaptn » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:16 pm

Ken,

Make sure you use the brace correctly -- not too loose, not too tight. When I put the brace on I make a fist, if I feel tightening on the forearm flexor muscle I know I have it right.

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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by razz » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:21 am

I have elbow pain persisting since mid August of 2010. I tried rest ibuprofen and ice at my internists advice. By mid-November, after three months of ice, rest, and ibuprofen my elbow was fine as long as I did not play my guitar.

I visited a chiropractor in mid November (a move that I never thought that I would take) who administered a similar therapy that you describe with the physiotherapist. He also performed "adjustments" on my back, neck and shoulders. This chiropractor also advised, at the first visit, that I should begin to play for short periods of time.

After 7 treatments (and 7 copays), I can play again for about 20 minutes at a time. I still have some mild discomfort after playing, but nothing like back in August. I'm pretty sure that my elbow will be back to normal in a few more weeks (and a few more copays).

Would my elbow have improved without treatments from a chiropractor? I will never know.

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Re: Tennis Elbow

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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by terpfan » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:38 am

First of all, dress warmly. most injuries can be avoided by dressing warmly. (practicing and also regularly) secondly most source of pain originate from your hand. often injuries from your hand is noticed in elbow and shoulders. larger muscle trying to compensate for smaller muscle. try massaging your hand. in between your thumb and fingers and all the tendons and muscle you can find in your hand. i guarantee you will find it extremely painful and feel the tingling on your shoulder or elbow. you can massage your elbow forever and it won't help because problem is usually from the hand. (this is same comment from the other post and from personal experience of two years of playing with pain)

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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by DaveBlake » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:11 am

Just a thought Ken, and any other readers with an inexplicable tennis elbow problem, did you get an X-ray?

Back when I wasn't playing guitar at all, nor any racket sports, I suddenly developed tennis elbow, and it was agony. In addition to the usual suggestions my GP also sent me for an X-ray, which revealed a calcified "spike" had grown on the end of a bone and was disrupting the architecture of the joint. The specialist I was referred to said these things are more common on shoulder blades than elbows, but was just a natural occurrence. Unwilling to have cortinsone injected, or even worse surgery to remove the spike, I opted to rest it and wait and see. It was possible the body would reabsorb what it had deposited, or at least get used to the extra "bone". It took well over a year for my arm to return to full pain-free function, but I did get there.

Tennis elbow is not always the result of how you have been using your arm, so in the end you may be able to continue as you once were.

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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by Charles Mokotoff » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:09 pm

segoviajr07 wrote:My doctor suggested this:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/2 ... nis-elbow/
Well, I am much better, and I think the above was very helpful. I did buy the rubber rod that is shown there and it is better than anything I was able to dream up as a free alternative.
I still have some pain, but I never notice it anymore when playing, when I stop playing, or during a piece if I drop my arm, I feel some discomfort in the elbow, but it doesn't seem to be bothering my playing anymore.

Hope others try this and find it helpful.
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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by musicd1960 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:42 am

I realize this is an older post.. . I first discovered guitar elbow from my Dr. I thought he was kidding me, knowing I was a musician, but I did have a horrible case of tendinitis in my elbows.. both unfortunately, and on the top and bottom of my elbows, really painful, it was related to my work as well as my guitar playing. and found it was worse on my strumming arm.. probably because I have short arms in comparison to the size of my instrument..
for years I did the regular treatments- icing, anti inflammatories, and elbow supports.. after a while those things were hurting my arm muscles... it was last year when this horrible condition came back full force and lasted for months... I'd had it with those braces and asked My PT .. what about taping.. athletes tape all different places and carry on with their business. well I have to tell you ... it worked.. and not only that but it cleared up way faster... so now when I feel that pain start up.. I immediately tape it... works like having brace on.. by displacing the stress off of the connective tissue at the joint and placing it in the stronger part of the muscle... and way more comfortable. if you are wondering about the how... search Youtube for elbow bracing/taping with K-tape.. it is pricy so I used something else affordable... a flexible paper tape underneath and a heavier sports tape on top for support. that way it wont pull on your skin. the videos were very helpful... (there are also instructions for taping other injuries as well... feet, knees, etc.) hope this is a help to my fellow sufferers. : )

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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by GeoffB » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:13 am

Hi musicd1960, welcome to the forum. Could I ask you to introduce yourself here?

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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by MMC » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:48 pm

Severe case of tennis elbow forced me to stop practicing for two and a half months recently. Cause was not CG related but it was so bad that after practicing for only a short time, straightening out my arm was extremely painful. I used the BAC-IT arm band, which moves the point of stress on the lateral epicondyle forward toward the wrist and away from the point at which the tendon attaches to the elbow. This doesn't cure the problem, it only offers some relief from the often excruciating pain associated with any stress placed on the elbow. While waiting for an appointment with a physical therapist, my research turned up an invention that solved my problem - Thera-bands. A series of four, increasingly more dense and thicker, footlong rubber cylindrical flex bars are twisted in such a way (search Thera-band on YouTube) as to exercise the injured tendon (3 sets of 15 reps each day) in such a way that typically over the course of six weeks it heals. I found the exercise to be painful at first, but I continued the exercises through the pain and sure enough, after two weeks I was able to progress from one band to the next and in six weeks I was able to start practicing again. The regimen worked so well that I plan to incorporate it into my daily exercise routine (an ounce of prevention . . . ) I cancelled the appointment with the PT. Good luck!

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Re: Tennis Elbow

Post by riemsesy » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:15 pm

@mmc
thnx for these hints. my work is IT, and typing all day at a desk. that is what caused the pain.
I have been to doctor, send me to a PT, been in a hospital to an orthopedic surgeon, he made xray first, then send me to an other PT, other treatment, ultrasonic device pounding on your elbow.
now more than one year later and still having pain in my right elbow.
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