Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

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Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by iKenndac » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:59 pm

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a new classical guitar (my current one is the cheapest I could find in the store a few years ago, and sounds horrible).

I spent a couple of hours in my local guitar store on Sunday and, after trying various Alhambras and the like, was recommended a guitar I've never heard of before: a Milestones of Music "Madrid" 1A in cedar. And… it was amazing! Of the 6 guitars I tried on the day, my top two were both cedar guitars — the first this, and the second an Alhambra 8P.

The problem is, I can't find any information on this guitar online. It seems like a German company that designs it and they get assembled in China. The cost of this guitar is 17500 Swedish crowns, which is ~$2,000. Unfortunately, the one in the store was quite scratched up (apparently due to it having a very fragile finish to help the sound), and they won't be able to get me a new one for several months. They did offer a discount, though.

My second favourite, the Alhambra 8P, is quite a lot cheaper and is from a make I can find information and support for. I really loved the Milestones of Music guitar, but I'm kind of put off by it being a no-name Chinese brand.

I'd appreciate your thoughts!

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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by Annette » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:32 pm

Hi,
- There's an interisting site by Milestones guitars: Just search for "milestones of music"
- And in youtube searching for "interview with Wolfgang Jellinghaus" you will also some find some information about this company and the guitars.
Hope this will help a little bit!
Yours Annette

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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by es335 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:51 am

Some dealers state that these guitars are manufactured in a small workshop in China by experienced luthiers!
They seem to offer real good value for the money with all solid woods, french polish and with ball bearing tuners.

The video comparison of their models is quite interesting!

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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by iKenndac » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:49 pm

Thank you for the replies! Today I returned to my guitar store to play the Alhambra 8P and Milestones of Music guitars again.

The Alhambra certainly had a more 'brand new!' look to it - very shiny and perfect. However, the Milestones guitar looks more 'handmade' and interesting, and certainly felt a lot more special to play. After seeing the website and listening to that interesting interview with the creator I was much happier about its origins, and pulled the trigger on the Milestones guitar.

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Post by lagartija » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:05 pm

iKenndac wrote:Thank you for the replies! Today I returned to my guitar store to play the Alhambra 8P and Milestones of Music guitars again.

The Alhambra certainly had a more 'brand new!' look to it - very shiny and perfect. However, the Milestones guitar looks more 'handmade' and interesting, and certainly felt a lot more special to play. After seeing the website and listening to that interesting interview with the creator I was much happier about its origins, and pulled the trigger on the Milestones guitar.
If you loved the sound of the guitar, you can't go wrong. Even if it wasn't as shiny and pretty, it is often just the sound of your guitar that compels you to sit for hours in your practice chair! Better to take the one whose sound you love than wait for a brand new one that may or may not have the sound you love. :casque:
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Post by simonm » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:13 pm

The milestones brand is for sale in Germany. I have not seen them personally but a friend who has seen them thought they were pretty good. I think Leo Asprey who is a member here has also had a look at them in Duesseldorf or somewhere near there. The well known Siccas guitar shop in Karlsruhe has them as well.

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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by powderedtoastman » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:03 am

Congrats, I'll be interested to know how you like it after having it for a while!

I am personally somewhat interested in Torres models, and even more interested in Romantic guitars, both of which they make.

Unfortunately I don't find their romantic guitar very appealing though, especially for the price I've seen it listed for. I think the aesthetic is just slightly off in so many places that add up for me to not like it. In the market for that sort of thing, I'd rather pay the extra chunk of change to have a luthier build something more authentic and get to have my own choices on things.

Their Torres model looks quite good to me on the other hand, and if I was in the market for one I'd at least consider it, though I do think there are also probably options in that segment that would be a better value for what you pay.

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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by iKenndac » Sun May 28, 2017 6:55 pm

Hi everyone!

I've had this guitar a month and a half now, and what a palava it was at the beginning! I had the shop put some simple electronics in it for practicing with headphones when it's noisy in the house, and when I went back to collect it the guitar had developed a really nasty buzz when playing an E on the 4th string. I took it back and the shop had it in for a few days, eventually calling back and admitting defeat. However, when I went back the buzz was mostly fixed and can only be triggered if you're really trying to.

So, I took the guitar home and started playing. Six weeks later, I love this thing — beautiful sound and a really nice feel. I'm making decent progress in my practice, and I'm looking forward to picking up a decent mic to record it with instead of using the one built into my webcam. The only buzz I can make happen is making the strings rattle against the frets by misfingering or otherwise playing badly.

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Post by Scott Phillips » Sun May 28, 2017 11:29 pm

I just looked at the milestones website. Apparently English is not their first language. Lots of spelling and grammatical errors. I would think they would care more about their website. It just doesn't look very legit when they spell French "Frensh" eight times in a row. They seem rather expensive, especially if they are made in China.

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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by ddray » Mon May 29, 2017 5:45 pm

lagartija wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:05 pm

If you loved the sound of the guitar, you can't go wrong. Even if it wasn't as shiny and pretty, it is often just the sound of your guitar that compels you to sit for hours in your practice chair! Better to take the one whose sound you love than wait for a brand new one that may or may not have the sound you love. :casque:
Happy New Guitar Day!
Wonderfully put and I think that's excellent advice.

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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by RenaissanceStrings » Sat May 04, 2019 4:47 pm

Hello there,
I have a Milestones of Music (Torres Relic), which I have played for over a year now. My opinion, shared by classicalguitarmagazine.com is that the instruments are incredible for the price. I have recordings on my youtube channel with the guitar, which lend some insight into the playability and tonal qualities/characteristics of the instrument.



Having said that I currently have my listed for sale in the UK, so if anyone is interested please check the following post:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=127413

Have a nice day.

Mohsin

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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by zavaletas » Sat May 04, 2019 10:24 pm

I know Wolfgang Jellinghaus, the German luthier, who is behind "Milestones." He has a small workshop in China where he works with 3 luthiers and a polisher, and his administrative assistant, Daisy. The idea behind "Milestones" was to build guitars that pay tribute to the great masters of guitar building. I have bought a number guitars-- including his tribute to Torres, his Madrid model a tribute to Ramirez. He previously worked with Kenny Hill and was a partner I believe in Martinez guitars. I had him build a Manuel Ramirez copy using Richard Brune's plans of Segovia's 1912 guitar-- although to avoid CITES problems I had him use European maple for the back and sides. I couldn't be happier. Great sounding guitars, superb craftsmanship. The German spruce he used is among the best I have seen. In short, his guitars offer great quality. His guitars offer, luthier made quality, and an affordable price.
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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by Guitar-ded » Sun May 05, 2019 6:40 pm

Well done to the OP to have the confidence to go for the guitar he preferred even though it was a bit less shiny-new than the more well-known brand.
Here's to years of fun with it.
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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by hesson11 » Sun May 05, 2019 11:10 pm

I can't confirm it as fact, but it appears that these guitars are being sold in the USA under the brand name La Canada by Guitar Salon International in California. Descriptions at the GSI site say, "The 'La Cañada' series of guitars is a collaborative effort between master luthier Edmund Blochinger and Wolfgang Jellinghaus of the 'Milestones' guitars." They go on to say they are built, "to Blochinger’s specifications in Jellinghaus’ small facility in China." For what it's worth.
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Re: Has anyone heard of "Milestones of Music" guitars?

Post by isleepinabed » Mon May 06, 2019 7:14 pm

In Spain they're being sold under a "Antonio de Toledo" label.

There are some interesting and appealing 2nd hand deals going around for these guitars around Europe..

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