Thanks simonm. I do have a long term teacher, who is excellent, but he's as new to nylon as I am. The only comfort I have is that when he plays my guitar he gets the same buzzing; on his, which he has recently acquired, the buzzing is also there but not as pronounced.simonm wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:45 pmI suspect that both steel strings and electrics are a bit more forgiving in regard to exactly where you are pressing the strings. On a classical you should be fretting as close to being on top of the fret bar as you can. This is not always easy especially as you move up towards the D and A strings. So I suspect that technique may be at least part of the issue. I am sure some experienced person will be along and suggest some remedy. I suspect the gist of it will be "get a teacher."
Thank you for the advice and I'll get myself a gauge as it will be useful for the future. I wasn't present when the Furch was set up but I spoke to the luthier in the shop and he has a lot of experience. As such, I'm sure he will have catered for the fingerboard radius.OldPotter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:46 pm3.5mm looks OK, but I still think the action is just a little bit too low. Perhaps your dealer would raise the saddle by 1.00mm at the 4th and 5th string and let you try again. Classicals with a low action often have problems on the 4th string, buzzing at frets 3,4 and 5. The usual "cure" is to raise the action a little bit, but not enough to cause a playing problem. The saddle may not need to go up so much but its hard to tell from here. When you press on a string firmly, just behind the fret, it raises the string by a very small amount just in front. If that stops the buzzing , then raising the action will do the same.
I see that the Furch has a radiused fingerboard so hope your luthier has taken this into account.
If you wanted to make a simple bore gauge to measure the action, cut a piece of thin stiff plastic (ice cream carton lid). Make it 100mm long and 10mm high at one end and tapering to zero at the other. Cut all the edges with a knife and straight edge. Make a mark on it where it touches the string at the 12th fret. Measure along it in centimetres from the zero, the height is in millimetres. So yours might have a mark 3.5 centimetres from the zero end. Or, Draper make a stainless steel bore gauge for a couple of pounds.
Yes, this is one of the suggestions to try. It might be easier to cut a strip to fit under the whole saddle, just as a temporary measure. In the long term, sometimes a strip of suitable material can be glued to the bottom of the saddle, but as the saddle is radiused it will probably mean a new saddle. I'm not sure it would be possible to shove some plastic under two strings and expect it to stay, it could cause some buzzing issues of its own. No harm in trying, but just take a bit of care....One question: just as a test, could I fashion something approximately 1mm thick - for example a piece of plastic - loosen the A and D strings and pop it onto the saddle? I wouldn't want to do anything that could damage the guitar. Although I appreciate it will prevent proper sound transference into the body, it would at least allow me to temporarily raise the action and see if this could resolve the issue.
change stringsFurchMan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:57 pmIs it my technique or my guitar? Or maybe both?
I've been playing for around two years on electric and steel-stringed acoustic and have just made the move to nylon. The guitar is a Furch crossover guitar and so more like a standard acoustic, albeit with nylon strings. This suits me as I have irritatingly short fingers and find traditional classical necks too wide.
The issue I'm having is that I'm finding that the D and A strings buzz when fretted. Having Googled the issue (it comes up a lot), there appears to be two camps: your guitar is set up incorrectly or your technique is wrong.
The guitar does have low action for a nylon but it was set up by someone who has a lot of experience and the guitar itself wasn't cheap and so I'd hope is unlikely to have problems such as raised frets. Also the problem occurs on just about every position on the neck. The other reason I'm sure it's not all the guitar's fault is that I do have a cheapo nylon stringed guitar in the cupboard, with a traditional classical neck. This guitar has insanely high action but even playing this I get the buzzing.
So, I'm back to technique. I'm aware that players should always hold as close to the fret being played as possible to get the best sound. Leaving aside the problems this causes for those of us with shorter digits, I'm wondering how I would play a chord such as an Fmaj barre? When I play it, my ring finger is some distance from the fret and so the A string buzzes. If I alter the way I play this chord, which isn't easy, by switching my ring finger for my pinky I then have the opposite problem: the A string is clean but now the D string buzzes.
Has anyone else faced and overcome this issue or have any useful tips?