How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

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How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by Dr ToneControl » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:19 pm

you know, this sort of thing:

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I use them a lot now

I got my first piece with one of these furniture moving platforms:
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My mate uses one to hold lap steels on a flat surface, but then I also saw Matt Wadsworth, a Theorbo player using one to maintain the position of the instrument, which gave me the idea to try it out. I recently saw Gary Ryan using one in this video:

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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:23 pm

Yes, a big bit on each leg. Feels very insecure now if I play for a while without. But then also it helps me use a rest that I can move out half-way towards the knee; without some mat that would tend to slip even further, depending on trouser material.
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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by celestemcc » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:29 pm

Yes, a big bit on each leg. Feels very insecure now if I play for a while without. But then also it helps me use a rest that I can move out half-way towards the knee; without some mat that would tend to slip even further, depending on trouser material.
I use a couple of pieces of 1mm neoprene that I found at a German music festival, recommended by a German guitarist I'd met. Exactly what Stephen says above, they make the guitar feel so much more secure. Next time I'd just try a local dive shop or kayak shop, but at least these were very cheap even in Germany.
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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by Jeff Whitney » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:50 pm

I use that! I thought I was the only one. Two pieces, one on each leg.
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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by GravyDave » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:23 pm

I have been trying to use one. My instructor has been pressing for it for awhile now. I can see why. I tend to have the guitar slightly tilted so I can see what I'm doing. I think I'm just lazy because I can see the benefit. Mental note to start using it!

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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by petermc61 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:02 pm

No. Tried it. Damaged the polish on a lovely instrument some years ago. Choose carefully, but you may not know you have the wrong stuff until you see damage.....

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Post by edcat7 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:20 pm

petermc61 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:02 pm
No. Tried it. Damaged the polish on a lovely instrument some years ago. Choose carefully, but you may not know you have the wrong stuff until you see damage.....
Hmmm....a JW ? No worries if it is. It's a great guitar.
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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by petermc61 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:11 pm

edcat7 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:20 pm
petermc61 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:02 pm
No. Tried it. Damaged the polish on a lovely instrument some years ago. Choose carefully, but you may not know you have the wrong stuff until you see damage.....
Hmmm....a JW ? No worries if it is. It's a great guitar.
No, not a JW. That was sold in near mint condition. :D

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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by edcat7 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:18 pm

petermc61 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:11 pm
edcat7 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:20 pm
petermc61 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:02 pm
No. Tried it. Damaged the polish on a lovely instrument some years ago. Choose carefully, but you may not know you have the wrong stuff until you see damage.....
Hmmm....a JW ? No worries if it is. It's a great guitar.
No, not a JW. That was sold in near mint condition. :D

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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by Dr ToneControl » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:44 pm

petermc61 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:02 pm
No. Tried it. Damaged the polish on a lovely instrument some years ago. Choose carefully, but you may not know you have the wrong stuff until you see damage.....
any advice on that would be welcome
I just bought a guitar with a French polish finish, and am about to get it renovated

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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by Jack Douglas » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:06 am

I buy unfinished leather strips from a shoe maker. Works great! These strips are rough on both sides so that they cling better to both the guitar and my leg. They are thicker than a chamois and less expensive. I get mine in black.
I’ve tried all sorts of guitar supports and these leather strips and a dynarette make a winning combination for me.
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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by Paul Janssen » Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:11 am

I've never felt the need. The guitar rest I use (a De Oro - thank again Peter!!) has a strip of leather that sits on the leg, rough side down. It feels very secure to me.

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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:45 am

Dr ToneControl wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:44 pm
petermc61 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:02 pm
No. Tried it. Damaged the polish on a lovely instrument some years ago. Choose carefully, but you may not know you have the wrong stuff until you see damage.....
any advice on that would be welcome
I just bought a guitar with a French polish finish, and am about to get it renovated
My understanding is that it takes some months for a French polish to cure and harden. SBM recommends against suction cups on guitar supports if a guitar has a fresh French polish. (My support uses suction cups with absolutely no issues for my well cured guitars.)

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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by richtm » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:24 am

I just order sume rubber grips as shown on top. I know the problem of a sliding guitar. I will see if I overcome it. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: How many people use those rubber grip mats to stop their guitar slipping away?

Post by rpavich » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:01 am

I went through this and tried everything. If I need it, I use a Chamois on my leg.

However, what I found was that it was mainly my fault, I was pressing too hard with my right arm and tilting the guitar myself. Once I realized that, and lightened up, the guitar stays put much better.

I do know that Douglas Neidt actually applies suede strips to his guitar using double-backed-carpet tape! I haven't worked up the courage for that yet.
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