Weiss Sonata 35 Allemande

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Weiss Sonata 35 Allemande

Post by soltirefa » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:54 pm

After hearing this monumental performance I thought if I ever had a 13-string guitar I would want to learn this piece.

https://youtu.be/bSM6zh3Ce4k

And this guy did just that. Audio not nearly as good as above, but the performance is very nice.

https://youtu.be/Hwh9gANveKc

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Re: Weiss Sonata 35 Allemande

Post by Jouni Stenroos » Fri May 11, 2018 12:58 pm

soltirefa wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:54 pm
After hearing this monumental performance I thought if I ever had a 13-string guitar I would want to learn this piece.
Glen, I just checked, that was one of the suites I started to transcribe for Yepes tuning a few years ago. Works in E-minor, a few changes required here and there probably, can't remember any more.

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Re: Weiss Sonata 35 Allemande

Post by soltirefa » Fri May 11, 2018 1:57 pm

Jouni Stenroos wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 12:58 pm
soltirefa wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:54 pm
After hearing this monumental performance I thought if I ever had a 13-string guitar I would want to learn this piece.
Glen, I just checked, that was one of the suites I started to transcribe for Yepes tuning a few years ago. Works in E-minor, a few changes required here and there probably, can't remember any more.

-Jouni
Well if you have that Allemande finished I'd love to check it out.

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Re: Weiss Sonata 35 Allemande

Post by soltirefa » Fri May 11, 2018 2:00 pm

By the way, did you ever see this amazing number of transcriptions this guy did of Weiss Sonatas?

http://www.forrestguitarensembles.co.uk/solos.html

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Re: Weiss Sonata 35 Allemande

Post by Jouni Stenroos » Fri May 11, 2018 3:00 pm

soltirefa wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 1:57 pm
Jouni Stenroos wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 12:58 pm
soltirefa wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:54 pm
After hearing this monumental performance I thought if I ever had a 13-string guitar I would want to learn this piece.
Glen, I just checked, that was one of the suites I started to transcribe for Yepes tuning a few years ago. Works in E-minor, a few changes required here and there probably, can't remember any more.

-Jouni
Well if you have that Allemande finished I'd love to check it out.
It's notated and checked for playability, but not fingered.

Edit: Emailed it :)

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Re: Weiss Sonata 35 Allemande

Post by soltirefa » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:37 am

Another nice performance of this piece. The picture is of a guitar, but it's clearly a lute (or possibly a multi-string guitar) being played.

I have been playing this on my 10-string in the original key of D minor with 10=f 9=g 8=b flat 7=low C 6=low D (altered Yepes). It works pretty well.


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Re: Weiss Sonata 35 Allemande

Post by Conall » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:13 am

soltirefa wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:54 pm
After hearing this monumental performance I thought if I ever had a 13-string guitar I would want to learn this piece.



And this guy did just that. Audio not nearly as good as above, but the performance is very nice.

Blimey, yet another Weiss to seek out & arrange for my 11 string! Both of these guys' guitars sound great though as you say the 2nd recording itself isn't so good.
The 2nd guitar looks like a Thames Dresser? The first guitar is intriguing - courses - hybrid lute-guitar? But very nice. I'm inclined to think he might as well have just played it on lute if he likes (double) courses instead of single strings though.

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Re: Weiss Sonata 35 Allemande

Post by soltirefa » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:13 am

Just a random observation about using the altered-Yepes tuning for this piece -

I have the low C, but lack the low Bb and low A. But, I have higher versions of those basses open (8=Bb and 5=A), so although I can't play the original low basses of these notes I do have them open, and that really comes in handy. It ends up I have open A Bb C D (no E) F and G. E is the only bass I don't have open, and in this particular piece, it isn't needed open.

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