Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

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mlau
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by mlau » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:13 pm

The tuners were changed out for Der Jung's thanks to a member here.

Considering the bridge saddle is cheap plastic, and the strings were super cheap, this guitar has a great tone

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by dta721 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:20 pm

mlau wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:13 pm
The tuners were changed out for Der Jung's thanks to a member here.

Considering the bridge saddle is cheap plastic, and the strings were super cheap, this guitar has a great tone
Thanks for sharing your experience with your M. Sakurai No. 5 to the fan club! :okok: The pic of your cedar top actually made me appreciate mine, i.e. in "better" shape :) ! That said, I have not upgraded the existing tuners, by its look it could be original (claimed to be gold Lyra style by the seller) and the one at the 1st E string is a bit stiff to turn. However, the guitar is keeps its tunes well, not an apparent issue. The saddle is of bone, IR bridge.

How did you buy your Der Jung tuners? Online, what are the item numbers, if you don't mind?

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by erichert » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:43 pm

I'm looking at a 1992 Kohno Pro-R for $2900. It's got some dings on the top, but apparently nothing structural. Does this sound like a decent deal? I don't really know anything about Kohno guitars or their value, but my recent research has me intrigued.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:47 pm

erichert wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:43 pm
I'm looking at a 1992 Kohno Pro-R for $2900. It's got some dings on the top, but apparently nothing structural. Does this sound like a decent deal? I don't really know anything about Kohno guitars or their value, but my recent research has me intrigued.
If there are no structural issues (hardly seen on Kohno's, as they are very sturdy built) and the playability is good, the price is more than fair. Do you have the opportunity to try it?

/on
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2016 - Juan Miguel Carmona
2016 - Pete Beer

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by erichert » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:52 pm

rinneby wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:47 pm
erichert wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:43 pm
I'm looking at a 1992 Kohno Pro-R for $2900. It's got some dings on the top, but apparently nothing structural. Does this sound like a decent deal? I don't really know anything about Kohno guitars or their value, but my recent research has me intrigued.
If there are no structural issues (hardly seen on Kohno's, as they are very sturdy built) and the playability is good, the price is more than fair. Do you have the opportunity to try it?

/on
Thanks, yes I believe I will be able to play it.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:53 pm

erichert wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:52 pm
rinneby wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:47 pm
erichert wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:43 pm
I'm looking at a 1992 Kohno Pro-R for $2900. It's got some dings on the top, but apparently nothing structural. Does this sound like a decent deal? I don't really know anything about Kohno guitars or their value, but my recent research has me intrigued.
If there are no structural issues (hardly seen on Kohno's, as they are very sturdy built) and the playability is good, the price is more than fair. Do you have the opportunity to try it?

/on
Thanks, yes I believe I will be able to play it.
Great. Do you have any pictures of the guitar, dings?

/Jon
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
2016 - Juan Miguel Carmona
2016 - Pete Beer

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by erichert » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:05 pm

rinneby wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:53 pm
erichert wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:52 pm
rinneby wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:47 pm

If there are no structural issues (hardly seen on Kohno's, as they are very sturdy built) and the playability is good, the price is more than fair. Do you have the opportunity to try it?

/on
Thanks, yes I believe I will be able to play it.
Great. Do you have any pictures of the guitar, dings?

/Jon
Sent you a PM

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:34 am

Right now I have my eyes on a Masaru Kono No.7 from 1964. Solid spruce top and solid Brazilian rosewood back and sides. I will know more next week :) A friend of mine who's selling.

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/Jon
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by tkoehler1 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:41 am

Wow!!! That '64 looks sweet :-)

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:13 am

tkoehler1 wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:41 am
Wow!!! That '64 looks sweet :-)
Indeed, the tuners are probably replaced though. Lucky me I have a pair of old Kono-tuners laying around (that I probably
won't use anyway).

I'm not sure if No.7 was the highest model at the time. But I do know there was a No.10 in 1965, looking the same as this one.

/Jon
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
2016 - Juan Miguel Carmona
2016 - Pete Beer

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by strngdrvnthng » Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:13 pm

Very nice indeed.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by Hank Matallana » Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:29 pm

hi,

Can you tell if it has a traditional spanish heel or is it a glued mortise joint?

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:51 pm

Hank Matallana wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:29 pm
hi,

Can you tell if it has a traditional spanish heel or is it a glued mortise joint?

Thanks,
Hank
I'm 99% sure it has mortise joint. I don't have the guitar in my hands yet. But the older Kono's I've seen all had it.

/Jon
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
2016 - Juan Miguel Carmona
2016 - Pete Beer

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by Hank Matallana » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:22 pm

Hi Jon,

That's interesting. I too have seen mostly mortice joint, although I am the custodian of a rare bird: a Spanish Cedar/Brazilian 68' No.15 kohno built like cedar Fleta with the tradition spanish heel. It consistently smells like a cigar box when I take it out. It's capable of a bit more dynamics than other Kohnos I've tried. Not too sure if it's because of the neck angle or because of the bracing pattern used. I have a photos somewhere if you'd like to see them.

Hank
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:25 pm

Hank Matallana wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:22 pm
Hi Jon,

That's interesting. I too have seen mostly mortice joint, although I am the custodian of a rare bird: a Spanish Cedar/Brazilian 68' No.15 kohno built like cedar Fleta with the tradition spanish heel. It consistently smells like a cigar box when I take it out. It's capable of a bit more dynamics than other Kohnos I've tried. Not too sure if it's because of the neck angle or because of the bracing pattern used. I have a photos somewhere if you'd like to see them.

Hank
Yes, Kohno did start to use the Spanish heel construction in 1965-1966 I believe. All guitars he and his factory built after this period use Spanish heel.

/Jon
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
2016 - Juan Miguel Carmona
2016 - Pete Beer

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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