Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

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Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by sal » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:17 pm

Working on the Sor/Segovia Estudio 7 and wanted to check note in last measure on third line(measure 10); The last chord of measure is notated G and Bb- I am thinking it should be a B natural.
Any help would be appreciated.

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Martin
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Re: Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by Martin » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:32 pm

No, B flat is right. The key is F, so B is flattened throughout, and the C on the second string is clearly shown sustaining to the first beat of the next measure.

I have the Chanterelle edition

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Re: Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by 2lost2find » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:36 pm

Nope, the Bb is correct. Take the G on the 4th string.

That said, I would light your Segovia edition on fire and get a Sor complete studies anthology. The ones from Chanterelle, Tecla, and Mel Bay are all far more accurate than the Segovia edition.

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Re: Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by sal » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:52 pm

Uh oh...so I gotta REALLY stretch for that one. Thanks.
And thanks for the edition suggestions (though I dont think Ill use my Segovia edition for fire fodder)

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Re: Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by 2lost2find » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:25 pm

sal wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:52 pm
Uh oh...so I gotta REALLY stretch for that one. Thanks.
And thanks for the edition suggestions (though I dont think Ill use my Segovia edition for fire fodder)
We have the Chanterelle at home, and I recommend it.

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Re: Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by Alexander Kalil » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:00 pm

2lost2find wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:36 pm
I would light your Segovia edition on fire and get a Sor complete studies anthology. The ones from Chanterelle, Tecla, and Mel Bay are all far more accurate
+ 1, especially the Tecla.

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Re: Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:06 pm

sal wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:52 pm
Uh oh...so I gotta REALLY stretch for that one. Thanks.
And thanks for the edition suggestions (though I dont think Ill use my Segovia edition for fire fodder)
I wouldn't burn it, keep it for future reference; its a historical document in its way, of one particular artist's way of doing things, at one particular time. But getting a properly edited 'Complete' is highly recommended.
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Re: Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by 2lost2find » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:41 pm

Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:06 pm
sal wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:52 pm
Uh oh...so I gotta REALLY stretch for that one. Thanks.
And thanks for the edition suggestions (though I dont think Ill use my Segovia edition for fire fodder)
I wouldn't burn it, keep it for future reference; its a historical document in its way, of one particular artist's way of doing things, at one particular time. But getting a properly edited 'Complete' is highly recommended.
The trouble with posting to a classical guitar forum is that I am more often than not the only pyromaniac in the room... :lol:

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Re: Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by astro64 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:41 pm

2lost2find wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:41 pm
Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:06 pm
sal wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:52 pm
Uh oh...so I gotta REALLY stretch for that one. Thanks.
And thanks for the edition suggestions (though I dont think Ill use my Segovia edition for fire fodder)
I wouldn't burn it, keep it for future reference; its a historical document in its way, of one particular artist's way of doing things, at one particular time. But getting a properly edited 'Complete' is highly recommended.
The trouble with posting to a classical guitar forum is that I am more often than not the only pyromaniac in the room... :lol:
Could it be those cold Northern winters? ...

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Re: Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by David Norton » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:10 am

sal wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:52 pm
Uh oh...so I gotta REALLY stretch for that one. Thanks.
This is a great example of how things which Sor conceived on the smaller guitar of his era don't always gracefully transition to the modern size instrument. Bring in your left elbow when you play the G/Bb combo, that will give a tiny bit better angle for the pinky to land cleanly on the G without deadening off the Bb. That extra reach may be enough to make the difference for you.
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Re: Note check for Sor/Segovia Estudio 7

Post by sal » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:26 am

Thanks David-thats much better!

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